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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Available Ollin Sword Design custom Oakeshott's Xa #1         Reply with quote

Not that long ago Mark asked me if I though a quote he give for a sword was too high, my response was that it was probably too cheap. I also told him that at those prices that I was tempted to just have him make me a sword with the intention of selling it to help show off his own work. So after a couple days of discussion about what type of sword would be good, we decided on the Xa 1 from Records of the Medieval Sword. Within a day or so of picking a sword he was already sending me pictures from where he had immersed himself into the project.

I have had the sword for a few days now and have to say that he did a really good job on it. Have not done any cutting with it though since I did commission it to sell. For a couple years now I have been saying Mark is one of the best hollow grinders out there and it shows with this piece. The fit and finish are top notch as well. I'm going to hate seeing this one go, if it had been more in one of my time periods you wouldn't be able to pry it out of my hands.

Pictures and more information can be found at my website
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http://www.ollinsworddesign.com/osd-custom-xa1.html.



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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................................
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That is really nice work. I love the pommel, that's a design you don't see too many modern makers attempting.
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Holy smoke!!! That is pretty!
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That looks great, Mark!
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Shane,

Thanks for the complements! It was a great project for OlliN and I know what Mark really enjoyed working on it.

Best!

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Beautiful work.

One question though: does Xa.1 have a hollow ground blade? I thought that type X/Xa swords were lenticular in cross-section.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jonathan Blair wrote:
Beautiful work.

One question though: does Xa.1 have a hollow ground blade? I thought that type X/Xa swords were lenticular in cross-section.


Not typically; this one is unusual for the Type. Oakeshott liked the rest of it well enough to make it the first example of the sub-Type, though. More info and a pic of this sword can be found here: http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_spotx.html

It's important to remember that medieval smiths did't use Oakeshott's 20th century typology when making swords. Happy There are a lot of examples that don't fit the typology in varying degrees.

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Shane,

How acute is the hollowgrinding on the blade? You really don't get a sense of it from the photos.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jonathan Blair wrote:
Beautiful work.

One question though: does Xa.1 have a hollow ground blade? I thought that type X/Xa swords were lenticular in cross-section.


Most extant X's and Xa's do have a lenticular cross-section. However, there are a few swords like this one that diverge from that. Oakeshott classified this sword as a Xa in his typology but we have no way of knowing if this sword is the only surviving example of a very common style, or if it was unique unto itself. Typologies serve as an excellent broad reference for enhancing your knowledge of the subject but it's far too easy to get caught up in trying to categorize things that probably weren't put into neat categories when they were new. Whatever we may call it, it's nice to see someone doing an interpretation of this particular sword.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey Patrick,

He ground it with an 8" contact wheel, so it is there and noticeable in person. It isn't a real deep hollow, I would guess the original would probably be closer to something like a 6" wheel. I would imagine that 8" wheel are pretty commonly use for many of the shallower hollows and probably 4" used on some of the deep hollows we see out there today. I can try to get a better picture, maybe like the front face of the guard, that will show the degree of hollow better.

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I can try to get a better picture, maybe like the front face of the guard, that will show the degree of hollow better.


That would help. This is really tempting me!
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I can try to get a better picture, maybe like the front face of the guard, that will show the degree of hollow better.


That would help. This is really tempting me!


It is pretty nice - gotta give it my thumbs-up, too.

If you could say how wide the fuller is, one could take a compass, draw out an 8" circle, then use a ruler to find a chord that length - would show exactly how deep that fuller is...
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Ok, I added another picture to the site that should help a bit.


So Patrick, would it be a bad thing to tell you that this sword will be making its way down to mid-Missouri here in just a few days?

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So I assume that means it's still available? You need to check your email Shane... Happy
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Shane Allee wrote:
Ok, I added another picture to the site that should help a bit.


Thanks. That gives a much clearer view of the hollow-grinding.

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So Patrick, would it be a bad thing to tell you that this sword will be making its way down to mid-Missouri here in just a few days?


Probably not if that means it's been sold. I'm glad someone can remove the temptation. Big Grin
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Not been sold yet, it is going home with me for christmas to see the family back in Missouri. Well, unless Russ wants it....I still haven't got his email yet. Figured rather than it sitting around, I could still ship it off if someone does buy it while I am out of town.

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Tried it again via p.m. Happy
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Ok, looks like Russ is buying it.

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Shane Allee wrote:
Ok, looks like Russ is buying it.

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