What would you call this? -- myArmoury.com

Martin Wallgren · Posted: Thu 18 Aug, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: What would you call this?

I just wonder if it is a name to put to a weapon like this?

I have plans of letting somebody make one for me but what should I call the darn thing??

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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 2:35 am Post subject:

:cool: I am a beginner so here it comes: :eek:

Needlesword/ Nålsvärd
Nailsword/ Spiksvärd
Mordern Shortspear/ Mordernt Kortspjut
Wrestling Sword/ Brottar svärd

:p You don't need to thank me Martin :D :lol:

They really have a hard fighting look, don't they.

Joe Yurgil · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 6:15 am Post subject:

Toothpick of Death has a nice ring to it.

I remember seeing these on the Discovery Channel but I for get what they were called.

....and thus is posted another useless comment fueled by caffine.

Jeff Johnson · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:

Wicked! :)

Please post pictures!

You realize, that as this looks like a tournament piece, that you have to have to two made... Not to have two would be like having one dueling pistol. ;)

Elling Polden · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 8:10 am Post subject:

A halfswordsword?

Sean Flynt · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 8:37 am Post subject:

How about these?

Grosse Scheibendolch

Scheibenspiess

Scheibenschwert

If I've correctly interpreted and assembled the German, these mean "Big Rondel Dagger", "Rondel Spear" and "Rondel Sword" and describe this weapon pretty well. I want to make clear that these words are my own invention. I have no idea what this weapon might have actually been called.

J. Padgett · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 9:26 am Post subject:

I would call it Mr. Stabby, but I'm sure there is a much more historical name for it out there. Could be some kind of estoc I suppose.

Sean Flynt · Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 10:50 am Post subject:

Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 3:14 am Post subject:

I have look close on them and they look like they are single edged these.......
Thallhofer two hands knife's

:idea: or just to stay around Östersund: Biglake monster slaughter knife's :D

E.B. Erickson · Industry Professional

The Scots had a very similar weapon called a Jedburgh Staff. Some of theirs had a knucklebow attached to the disc guard.

--ElJay

Mikko Kuusirati · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 5:30 am Post subject:

Could they possibly be broken glaives (or other similar polearms)?

James Nordstrom · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: What would you call this?

See, this is the problem with th modern mind trying to interpret historical flora and fuana, the constant need to classify and name things. Likely back then they just told their squires to go get the "big stabby things" for the next part of the duel/challenge and left it at that.

Cheers
Jim

Brian M · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject:

These remind me of the "Uklwas" of the Zulu culture.

Brian M

Joe Fults · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject:

Can opener

Joe Fults · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: What would you call this?

Gavin Kisebach · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:

Yes indeedy more of the pic might help. Are they fighting to the death or playing at wasters? Whats the context? They look cool as heck regardless, but for no valid reason I think they're wasters.

Thomas McDonald · myArmoury Alumni

From ARMA's site :

The Solothurner Fechtbuch, c. 1423
http://www.thehaca.com/Manuals/Solothurner.htm
"The book also shows specialty weapons such as the Panzerstecher or Dreiecker (heavy estocs) with round guards and long padded ricasso grips."
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David R. Glier · Posted: Sat 20 Aug, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject:

except they don't look like any NORMAL estocs we've ever seen, and as for Panzerstecher...

Hmm... Panzerstecher. lit: "armour piercer"

GIS reveals something interesting. From www.armabohemia.cz , an exact reproduction of a museum piece...

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Looks like they could definately be in the same family. Panzerstechers they be! :D

Mikko Kuusirati · Posted: Sun 21 Aug, 2005 1:46 am Post subject:

Edward Hitchens · Posted: Sun 21 Aug, 2005 6:32 am Post subject:

I was gonna say they were broken glaives or perhaps the shortest-but-meanest looking lances I've ever seen. ;)
-Ted