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Michael F.
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 Posted: Sat 30 Jul, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: questions about the Next Generation Crecy |
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Well, I'm 99.999% sure I'm going to order the Next Gen. Crecy.  Before I do, I was wondering If anyone who owns or has an opinion on the Crecy might spread some light on the piece. Also, If any owner has any pictures they can share, that would be much appreciated. Also, does anyone any pictures of a an Albion that has a "Dark Brown" grip? I'm still debating over this and oxblood, which I have seen many examples of. I'm just glad it's on sale!
Thanks!
Michael F.
"Tis but a scratch.....A scratch? your arm's off!"-- Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 30 Jul, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: questions about the Next Generation Crecy |
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Michael,
The NG Crecy has only just started shipping, so owner opinions may be scarce for a few days. However, I handled the prototype in Atlanta and have it on-hand right now for my Albion Round Table next weekend.
The dark brown grip I saw in Atlanta was very dark. The current oxblood is kind of a mahogany and is darker than it used to be.
The Crecy has a nice classic look to it. It handles nicely as well. It seems to be a jack-of-all-trades design: fine for battle against various forms of defenses (mail or plate), and still nimble enough for civilian use.
At $450 (the current sale price, as you well know ), it's a hell of a bargain. It's a bargain at its regular price, too.
ChadA
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Alex Oster
Location: Washington and Yokohama Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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Where I have a first gen crecy, I must say that it fills "that niche" nicely. Had I to do it again, I would go for a Count above all else, or a Regent... I dunno, just something more unique. Its a great looking sword and I love mine, but it sort of blends in too much  I made a vow to never buy two swords with the same looking hilts again. In fact, if I ever buy a Count, I'll have to move out my Crecy.. 
Thats why I am aiming for a Discerner. Because then its in a different catagory of my collection: Childhood dreams
Not in my "multi-era arms representation like thingy" catagory 
Oh, how we justify our vices... 
The pen is mightier than the sword, especially since it can get past security and be stabbed it into a jugular.
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Nathan Robinson
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| Alex Oster wrote: | Where I have a first gen crecy, I must say that it fills "that niche" nicely. Had I to do it again, I would go for a Count above all else, or a Regent... I dunno, just something more unique. Its a great looking sword and I love mine, but it sort of blends in too much I made a vow to never buy two swords with the same looking hilts again. In fact, if I ever buy a Count, I'll have to move out my Crecy..
Thats why I am aiming for a Discerner. Because then its in a different catagory of my collection: Childhood dreams
Not in my "multi-era arms representation like thingy" catagory |
I don't understand. The Count and Crecy are completely different swords. They're nothing alike. Are you thinking of the Steward? The Count is the one with the faceted pommel and "carved" decorative elements midway on the cross-guard.
The other thing worth mentioning is that the First Generation Crecy and Next Generation Crecy are also two very, very, very different swords on all accounts.
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Alex Oster
Location: Washington and Yokohama Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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No, I was speaking from a general astetics point of view. I'll have to go recheck the steward.... doesn't sound familiar... As for the first/next gen, again I am coming from a overall looks POV not so much in the exact handling and typology. Consider it an outsiders perspective. An opinion, not a comparison. I'm not experienced enough to try one of those
The pen is mightier than the sword, especially since it can get past security and be stabbed it into a jugular.
This site would be better if everytime I clicked submit... I got to hear a whip crack!
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Brian M
Location: Austin, TX Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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Michael F,
The Dark Brown color is nearly indistinguishable from Black. Only in full sunlight does it really look like a (very) dark brown.
If I were you I'd go for either the Oxblood or the Light Brown. The Oxblood is quite nice and is more of a darkish-brown with slight reddish hints. The latest examples of Light Brown seem to be a pretty nice medium-chocolate brown, not as mottled as they look on Albion's website.
Brian M
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William Hurst
Location: California Joined: 16 May 2005
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You really can't go wrong with Oxblood. I have Oxblood on my Vinland, and I have not regretted my choice for a single second. I think it would go really well with the Crecy.
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Greyson Brown
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| Posted: Sun 31 Jul, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | At $450 (the current sale price, as you well know ), it's a hell of a bargain. It's a bargain at its regular price, too. |
So the price on the website ($580) is correct?!?     I could have sworn that it was a typo ($850 seemed so much more likely). I even sent Mike an e-mail to double check. I'm going to buy me a Crecy (and I had forgotten about the sale when I decided that)! I don't know what to say... oh, wait, yes I do: Yipee, Yipee, Yipee!!
-Grey
Help, my knees have gone weak.
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Robert B. Allison
Location: NW Montana Joined: 21 Apr 2005
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I recently purchased a Landgraf with a dark brown grip. I don't think it looks black, certainly not in decent light. If someone lived in a gloomy old castle, perhaps..... But in typical 21st Century light, it looks exactly like its name, dark brown. Taken outdoors in daylight, it has a beautiful, rich, chocolate-brown color with black mottling interspersed throughout.
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Daniel Staberg
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| Posted: Sun 31 Jul, 2005 6:19 am Post subject: |
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This is how Patrick Kelly described the NG Crecy in another thread
| Patrick Kelly wrote: | My impressions and opinions on the ones I either own or have handled:
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Crecy: like the Knight this is a great one. I won't be buying one myself since I have the longsword section of my collection pretty well covered, but lovers of the H&H genre should give this one a serious look. Like the Knight, the Crecy is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades kind of design. It will fit well into a variety of styles and techniques, and it's size is well suited for the slight of build as well as the bigger folk. This is an ideal general purpose longsword and I predict that it will be one of Albions most popular models. This is a huge amount of sword for the price.
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http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4534&start=0
The description certainly made me even more eager to get my hands on the Crecy I ordered which have yet to arrive.
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Sun 31 Jul, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Brian M wrote: | | The Dark Brown color is nearly indistinguishable from Black. Only in full sunlight does it really look like a (very) dark brown. |
| Robert B. Allison wrote: | | I recently purchased a Landgraf with a dark brown grip. I don't think it looks black, certainly not in decent light. If someone lived in a gloomy old castle, perhaps..... But in typical 21st Century light, it looks exactly like its name, dark brown. Taken outdoors in daylight, it has a beautiful, rich, chocolate-brown color with black mottling interspersed throughout. |
Perhaps the difference in perception between these two opinions, is the natural variability in the processes that Albion uses:
"Grip colors may vary slightly due to the authentic processes and natural materials used"
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W.H. Kalfsbeek
Location: Belgium/Netherlands Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Argh , never knew waiting could be so hard. The crecy will be my first real sword. Ordered it in oxblood and I'm having it dressed by Fletcher.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sun 31 Jul, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Greyson Brown wrote: | | So the price on the website ($580) is correct?!? I could have sworn that it was a typo ($850 seemed so much more likely). |
Yeah, $580, which makes the sale price $480. Sorry about the typo.
ChadA
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Sam Barris
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| Posted: Sun 31 Jul, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| W.H. Kalfsbeek wrote: | | Argh , never knew waiting could be so hard. The crecy will be my first real sword. Ordered it in oxblood and I'm having it dressed by Fletcher. |
Really? I thought Mr. Fletcher only did the ones shown on his site. Silly me. I shall have to contact him.
As for the Crecy, I've wanted it since I saw the first sketch. Fortunately, I only have to wait a little longer. It won't be my first real sword, but it will be my first Albion. Some people I know would call that a contradictory statement. In any event, I love the hand-and-a-half family in general as well as the "jack of all trades" feel of the Crecy. It just looks archetypal, in the Carl Jung sense of the word. I can't wait to get my hands on one and see what it can do against some tatami. Let us know how you like yours when you get it.
Pax,
Sam Barris
"Any nation that draws too great a distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools." —Thucydides
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Sun 31 Jul, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Daniel Staberg wrote: | This is how Patrick Kelly described the NG Crecy in another thread
| Patrick Kelly wrote: | My impressions and opinions on the ones I either own or have handled:
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Crecy: like the Knight this is a great one. I won't be buying one myself since I have the longsword section of my collection pretty well covered, but lovers of the H&H genre should give this one a serious look. Like the Knight, the Crecy is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades kind of design. It will fit well into a variety of styles and techniques, and it's size is well suited for the slight of build as well as the bigger folk. This is an ideal general purpose longsword and I predict that it will be one of Albions most popular models. This is a huge amount of sword for the price.
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http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4534&start=0
The description certainly made me even more eager to get my hands on the Crecy I ordered which have yet to arrive. |
Thank you for that Daniel. It saves me from rewriting it!
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Michael F.
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| Posted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that's it, she's ordered... I finally chose oxblood for the grip color. I've just ordered it 5 minutes ago and already the wait is killing me! Alot of people I know have encouraged me to get something more "useful" for the lot of money. C'mon, how much more useful can you get! When I get it i'll be sure to write my thoughts about it (with pics and measurements!) I'm very exited, this will be my first Albion, And hopefully not the last.
"Tis but a scratch.....A scratch? your arm's off!"-- Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Alot of people I know have encouraged me to get something more "useful" for the lot of money. |
Granted, there are times when we need to act like grown-ups. Still.....................................
If you walk through life with that kind of philosophy you'll wind up looking back on a life that was very practical, very steady, and very boring!
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Edward Hitchens
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| Posted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Michael F. wrote: | | Well, that's it, she's ordered... I finally chose oxblood for the grip color. I've just ordered it 5 minutes ago and already the wait is killing me! Alot of people I know have encouraged me to get something more "useful" for the lot of money. C'mon, how much more useful can you get! When I get it i'll be sure to write my thoughts about it (with pics and measurements!) I'm very exited, this will be my first Albion, And hopefully not the last. |
Congrats Michael! She'll look good with an oxblood grip, that's for sure. As a few have mentioned, the oxblood will resemble brown with a burgundy-ish hue; I've seen it on a Sovereign. Remember the FirstGeneration Acre? I had one that I ordered with oxblood and at the time it was a brighter, richer red (not Ferrari red, but more 'candy-apple' red).
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Tue 02 Aug, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Edward Hitchens wrote: | | I had one that I ordered with oxblood and at the time it was a brighter, richer red (not Ferrari red, but more 'candy-apple' red). |
Magenta, from what I understand, is pretty close to the old oxblood, like your FG.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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