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Howard Waddell
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: New Hilt Component Wax Originals         Reply with quote

We just received the wax originals from Peter for several new models:

The Agincourt
The Poitiers
The Berserkr
and the Talhoffer (pictured below)



See the rest on the News page at:

http://albion-swords.com/albion-sword-news.htm

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Howy

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh that Talhoffer is beautiful Big Grin


Now I must picture it with red grip and blackened fittings Cool

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Howy,
Those look nice. The Agincourt's pommel wax looks to have a recess, which the drawing doesn't have. It also looks a little more complex overall (the boss looks smaller and more pronounced). Will that added complexity change the price?

Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice! I'm personally quite intrigued by the Berserkr. This is not at all what I had envisioned, but I'm pretty excited. This is one of those "odd duck" pieces that I seem to have a liking for.

The Poitiers came out nicely, and the longswords are definitely on a lot of "gimme gimme" lists.

Hopefully there will be one or more of these new pieces stuck in my Round Table bunch?

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Againcourt grip length?         Reply with quote

I really had to just hesitate and stop myself from outright emailing the order in for the Againcourt. I am hoping this sword will be slightly lighter and more agile than the first generation Crecy Grete. Also, I really desire a slightly longer grip length than 6.5" as was done on the first generation Crecy.

Howard, can you comment on stats for any of those points (grip length, weight, handling compared to Crecy?) If so, you may have another order tommorrow!

Jared Smith
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Any news on the Thegn?
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Againcourt grip length?         Reply with quote

Jared Smith wrote:
I really had to just hesitate and stop myself from outright emailing the order in for the Againcourt. I am hoping this sword will be slightly lighter and more agile than the first generation Crecy Grete. Also, I really desire a slightly longer grip length than 6.5" as was done on the first generation Crecy.

Howard, can you comment on stats for any of those points (grip length, weight, handling compared to Crecy?) If so, you may have another order tommorrow!

Jared Smith


Peter Johnsson writes about the NG Agincourt towards the end of this topic:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=3889&highlight=

While not exactly what you asked for I found the part very interesting to read.

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Thomas Jason wrote:
Any news on the Thegn?


The Thegn is next on my list, together with the last two XVa´s.
The Kingmaker is also right there. It might be completed before the Xva longswords.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: Againcourt grip length?         Reply with quote

Jared Smith wrote:
I really had to just hesitate and stop myself from outright emailing the order in for the Againcourt. I am hoping this sword will be slightly lighter and more agile than the first generation Crecy Grete. Also, I really desire a slightly longer grip length than 6.5" as was done on the first generation Crecy.

Howard, can you comment on stats for any of those points (grip length, weight, handling compared to Crecy?) If so, you may have another order tommorrow!

Jared Smith


I´ll jump in for Howard, Jared.

The Agincourt will not really be lighter than the First Gen Crecy, but it will be a *lot* more agile. There is really a very big difference in the feel between these two swords. Night and day you might say.
The XVa´s are big longswords with some weight to them, but as always, the actual weight will not say much about their feel or heft. They have blades that are massive at the base and a good stiffness retaining along the blade, *but* the distribution of mass and dynamic balance is such that the handling defies their actual weight. They XV and XVa types are "heavy" swords when you note total weight. The slim points and massive base of these blades makes them extremely agile.

The grip is around 7 inches on all these XVa longswords. For those that prefer a longer grip, the scent stopper versions would be recomended as that effectively lengthens the "grip" by almost an inch.
I consider the wheel pommels grippable, though. By palming half the wheel pommel you get good registration for the direction of the edge. It is a matter of preference and what you are used to using i training I suppose.

The point is narrow in profile but also thick (thicker than any other sword in the lines so far, apart from the "Svante"). It is a strong awl as it should be by type.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looking good so far.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Thanks for reply Peter...         Reply with quote

I decided to go with the Munich, and have just emailed in the order reservation. That one really speaks to the long grip style that I have been whinning and begging for you to release! Thankyou so much!

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These are going to fantastic, I can't wait to see the finished versions.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Peter Johnsson wrote:

The Kingmaker is also right there. It might be completed before the Xva longswords.


I vote for that. My Kingmaker needs to be in my hands ASAP.
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Any word on the Vassal? Just wondering how long I have to get my deposit together Big Grin
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Jeremy G wrote:
Any word on the Vassal? Just wondering how long I have to get my deposit together Big Grin


I will be hard pressed to start on the waxes for this before end of summer. I am looking forward to it though! :-)
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