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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2018 4:51 am    Post subject: Lorica Lintea on Trajan's Column         Reply with quote

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazette...ment*.html
I'm not familiar with this. Is this a tunic, linen armour or a submaralis?
Also check out those dacian swords.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2018 5:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's just a tunic. Pollen's work was written a hundred and fifty years ago. The pics are cool but ignore the text.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Also note that the descriptions seem to be of Roman equipment while the illustrations are all of *Dacian* items shown as trophies on the Column!

But yeah, just a tunic in this case. Oh, and that segmented thing labeled "leather armor" is probably iron.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2018 2:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Don't forget..from what I seem to recall, figures on Trajan's Column were originally painted, and only the lowest level figures would have been clearly visible..so a lot of the fine details would have been painted on and have been lost due to weathering over the centuries ?
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Don't forget..from what I seem to recall, figures on Trajan's Column were originally painted, and only the lowest level figures would have been clearly visible..so a lot of the fine details would have been painted on and have been lost due to weathering over the centuries ?
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ralph Grinly wrote:
Don't forget..from what I seem to recall, figures on Trajan's Column were originally painted, and only the lowest level figures would have been clearly visible..so a lot of the fine details would have been painted on and have been lost due to weathering over the centuries ?


Sure, but you can't paint anything on that tunic that would make it look like armor of any sort! It looks like all the other clothing in Roman artwork. It's a tunic.

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are some good close-ups of the armour and tunics on the pedestal: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazette.../base.html
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A lot of us doubt that the sculptors of Trajan's Column ever actually saw any Roman or Dacian equipment. More likely they just copied artwork done by others and added a lot of cliches and stereotypes to make it easy for the viewer to follow along. If you want an idea of what Roman soldiers actually wore in battle then best to look at the Adamklissi Monument.
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