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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject: 3 new basket-hilts from E.B. Erickson !         Reply with quote

I've just added 3 new hilts to my Basket-hilts by E.B. Erickson album !

These awesome new hilts will be available thru Angus Trim and will feature his high performance blades !
Not sure if they are spoken for or not ,? , but I would think one should act fast if interested !

Nice work, Eljay ! Mac

1.) English basket-hilt -- the style of which was in use from late 1500's to about 1700 . (right side view)

2.) Germanic basket-hilt -- with asymmetrical hilt . (1. right side of hilt, 2. left side)

3.) Proto-Mortuary hilt . (1. right side view, 2. front view)



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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow Mac! Thanks. I've got one of the Proto-mort clam-shells on tap for next year. Brilliant stuff. Eljay has sent me sketches of the Proto, but to see it in living form is truly awesome! Big Grin You've just brought a tear to my eye, for one I have to wait a year and two jusst from pure joy.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow! Each one is perfect. I'm broke. Sad I especially like the English Basket-hilt. In fact, that is the type of hilt that I've always wanted to add to my collection; and Eljay would be the one I would go to.

Thanks for sharing these Mac!
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice!
I like the english basket hilt espesially. Like the Germanic "palash" hilt as well.
Too bad I can't afford it.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow, that Germanic Baskethilt is just TOO COOL!

Dang... after the new Dresden and "other things" I'll post later, it's just too much to ask of the budget. Dang.

Must... resist... MUST... RESIST!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I put my name into the hat last year on the Germanic prototype once I learned it was being made. I'm not certain if that means I'm at the top of the list (I was at the time), as things certainly can change. They're all lovely, but there is something about that Germanic that calls to me. I can picture either any number of double-edged blades on it, but the easist (and still authentic) would probably be to equip one of Gus's 34" backblades to it with a small fuller. Exciting stuff!
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
I put my name into the hat last year on the Germanic prototype once I learned it was being made. I'm not certain if that means I'm at the top of the list (I was at the time), as things certainly can change. They're all lovely, but there is something about that Germanic that calls to me. I can picture either any number of double-edged blades on it, but the easist (and still authentic) would probably be to equip one of Gus's 34" backblades to it with a small fuller. Exciting stuff!


Nathan, if you get it, please be kind enough to put a 36" blade on it for me, will you? Big Grin

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Original inspiration !

This is the original (from Eljay's personal collection) that the Germanic hilt was inspired by ! Mac


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

* Photo : The Nineteenth Park Lane Arms Fair, copyright D.A. Oliver, 2002.


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

On the Proto-Mort, I love the way the knuckle shell is attached to the two back bars, nice design.

I can see me selling off one of my LOTR Limited editions to fund this endeavor.......

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

William Goodwin wrote:
On the Proto-Mort, I love the way the knuckle shell is attached to the two back bars, nice design.

That hilt looks symmetrical to me. How common was that historically?

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm thinking that this may be a loose interpitation of an original in his collection, but not absolutely certain, the "man" himself will need to answer that. Historically, this could be true to form. My reasoning behind this being that the Proto-Morts were not produced in as great numbers as the munition grade Mortuarys seen made during the ECW. In my research, it's rare to see two Proto-Morts exactly them same, though I'm sure Eljay may have another view on this.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
William Goodwin wrote:
On the Proto-Mort, I love the way the knuckle shell is attached to the two back bars, nice design.

That hilt looks symmetrical to me. How common was that historically?


It's hard to tell without seeing the originals from other angles. It appears that the last two in my attachment are symmetrical. Just by looking at other examples, there are a lot of other types of proto-mortuary hilts out there and appear in variations of asymmetrical & symmetrical.



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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is another English basket-hilt, this one with a similar guard setup to what Eljay did on his !
The main knuckle guard is secured to the pommel, with a screw, while the two side guard arms are left unattached !

* Photo: "Swords & Blades of the American Revolution", by George C. Neumann.

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Stephen A. Fisher wrote:
It's hard to tell without seeing the originals from other angles. It appears that the last two in my attachment are symmetrical. Just by looking at other examples, there are a lot of other types of proto-mortuary hilts out there and appear in variations of asymmetrical & symmetrical.

Even with the bar and guard configuration being symmetrical, I'm curious if there is an offset that makes the hilt asymmetrical, though, as we find on other basket-hilt types.

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Stephen,

Thanks for posting the pics for reference. The one on the right (from D. Blackmore's A & A of the ECW) is more on target
for the design of Eljays. I was at work during my first post so was limited to my reference resources.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eljay's work is wonderful stuff!!
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great looking stuff from ElJay! Thanks Mac for posting those up... Germanic basket-hilt, that I like!
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ever notice how much cooler something looks with a clamshell on it? I love that one! I think this is why the baskets are my favorite sword type. There are hundreds and hundreds of different ways to construct it. Seeing new ones is always exciting.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Feb, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eek!

Oh, that German...!

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