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Lafayette C Curtis




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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 2:19 pm    Post subject: Where did the "gamberson" misspelling come from?         Reply with quote

Lately I've been seeing more and more people misspelling "gambeson" as "gamberson" and it's frankly starting to annoy me. Alternative spellings based on medieval ones like "gambeis" or "wambeis" are understandable, but why "gambeRson?" What kind of unprintable unprint started this foolishness?
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Matthew Amt




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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 6:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh, that's nothing, you should hear what people do to Latin/Roman terminology. Pili instead of pila, any number of variations on lorica segmentata, caligulae, Romanes eunt domus, you name it.

And the abuses to the dignity of the Greek language? Forgeddaboudit.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

brigandine, bregander, bregandere, brigandyron, bringandyne, brigantayle, all appear in various texts.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 7:00 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oops! I am very guilty of this. Laughing Out Loud

Right, so it's Gambeson?

I think I got the spelling form a video by shadiversity on YouTube.

I wondered why he was unscrewing his pommel.

Then it hit me.

~JD (call me James if you want to quote me)
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J. Douglas





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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J. Douglas wrote:
Oops! I am very guilty of this. Laughing Out Loud

Right, so it's Gambeson?

I think I got the spelling form a video by shadiversity on YouTube.

Scrap that I didn't.

I've got no idea where I got that spelling from at all.

I wondered why he was unscrewing his pommel.

Then it hit me.

~JD (call me James if you want to quote me)
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Mark C. Moore




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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've heard people say 'gambeRson' in spoken conversation. It could be depending on where one is from. My wife was born and raised in Wisconsin, and sometimes I can -barely- understand a word she says. Laughing Out Loud ....McM
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Matthew Amt




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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark C. Moore wrote:
My wife was born and raised in Wisconsin, and sometimes I can -barely- understand a word she says. Laughing Out Loud ....McM


That's because she's your *wife*...

I remember when I was very little, I was surprised to learn that "Chicargo" was spelled without an "R"! No idea where I picked that quirk up, we were never a family that added r's, usually.

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Mark C. Moore




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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 10:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

One of her best is the word 'known'....she ads an 'e' between the 'w' and the 'n'....'knowen'. WTF?! She also says 'boughten', as in: "Gosh, dear, this pie is good. Is it home-made?"---''No, it's boughten from the store." WTF?! Laughing Out Loud ....McM
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark C. Moore wrote:
One of her best is the word 'known'....she ads an 'e' between the 'w' and the 'n'....'knowen'. WTF?! She also says 'boughten', as in: "Gosh, dear, this pie is good. Is it home-made?"---''No, it's boughten from the store." WTF?! Laughing Out Loud ....McM


Never come to Northern Ireland, my friend. You'd catch your death of accents! Laughing Out Loud

I wondered why he was unscrewing his pommel.

Then it hit me.

~JD (call me James if you want to quote me)
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Mark C. Moore




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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You would likely do the same here in East Texas....US Southerners *certainly* speak a different lingo. Laughing Out Loud .....McM
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Same place we get marscapone cheese, around Fort Warshington.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Apr, 2017 3:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've noticed it more often on SCA related forae. Many SCA focused DIY quilted garment articles have reinforced that misspelling of gamebson.

Then there is "spaulder" versus "spaudler." ;-)
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Sarah O




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PostPosted: Sun 30 Apr, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jee you should read some of the medieval inventory counts, every single one of them has different spelling for their items, and its all phonetically spelt. It's pretty horrendous so I can see how many alternate versions of spelling could arise for such an old piece of garb
if you look at some old blacksmiths inventories, the word nail is spelt about 10 different ways: naille nayl naeyl naylle nael nayle
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