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Howard Waddell
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 5:28 am    Post subject: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

I thought I'd start a new thread for the heck of it, introducing the next 24 models of NextGen swords... Some were in the Name that Sword contest, but there are lots of new pieces to see:

http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/sw...extgen.htm

We are also starting another Name That Sword Contest with some of the new models (we may add a few more as well before the contest is over)...

The concept drawings are, as before, only concept drawings -- the final sword (as you saw with the first rounds) may vary slightly, buit the spirit and authenticity will be the same. Individual pages on each sword, along with draft specs and prices will be up soon.

Hope you like the new line-up!

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Fascinating stuff and a lot of it is not offered by anyone else. Bravo!
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That's it!

That's the one! Surprised

The German Bastard I must be mine Big Grin

I handled an original close to this piece and it was just spectacular Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Howard Waddell wrote:
there are lots of new pieces to see:

http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/sw...extgen.htm


Howard Waddell

What's the difference between the Sherriff and the Soveriegn? The only thing I see is the blade is not as wide at the guard on the Sherriff. Everything else appears the same. I know its still in the planning stage, but what is the expected handling difference between them?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Howy,

Any chance one of the Talhoffer's will make its way into the Squire Line? We are setting up a new Schola St. George study group up here in Beaver Dam (to add to our King's Champions shows and to expand our historical sword/weapon fighting knowledge) and having a couple of Squire Line swords made in this style would be extremely helpful.

Just a thought.

Hope everyone at Albion had a great holiday season and we will talk to you soon.

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

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Howard Waddell

What's the difference between the Sherriff and the Soveriegn? The only thing I see is the blade is not as wide at the guard on the Sherriff. Everything else appears the same. I know its still in the planning stage, but what is the expected handling difference between them?

Thanks.


I am not Howard but I can point out one "obvious" difference:

The Sovereign has a double fuller, and the Sheriff packs a single one. And the prices are different. As far as handling characteristics are concerned, I will let Peter or the Albion folks to address them.

To the Albion Folks: Wow!!!!!!!

The Agincourt and Crecy are ordered Big Grin

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Jesse Smithers wrote:
Howard Waddell wrote:
there are lots of new pieces to see:

http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/sw...extgen.htm


Howard Waddell

What's the difference between the Sherriff and the Soveriegn? The only thing I see is the blade is not as wide at the guard on the Sherriff. Everything else appears the same. I know its still in the planning stage, but what is the expected handling difference between them?

Thanks.


I'm not Howy, but Peter answered this here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=2610

and Peter and Howy did here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ereign+xiv

They are to be based on the same blade blank. Peter said:

Quote:
The XIV blade is a derivate of the "Sovereign" tweaked a bit with a single fuller. The outline and size is identical.

Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Jesse Smithers wrote:
Howard Waddell wrote:
there are lots of new pieces to see:

http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/sw...extgen.htm


Howard Waddell

What's the difference between the Sherriff and the Soveriegn? The only thing I see is the blade is not as wide at the guard on the Sherriff. Everything else appears the same. I know its still in the planning stage, but what is the expected handling difference between them?

Thanks.


The other guys have pretty much answered the blade. So I will take a stab at the hilt. Happy The pommel will not have the recess. The guard is going to be "flatter" then the Sovereign as well. The time saved in clean up with these changes along with the single fuller will bring the Sheriff’s price down compared to the Sovereign.

I do not know about handling quite yet but I think it is going to be pretty comparable to the Sovereign. Hope this helps!!

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 7:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ooh.

The Danish 2 Handed Sword.

It's huge and delicious. Eek!

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
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I'm not Howy, but Peter answered this here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=2610

and Peter and Howy did here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ereign+xiv

They are to be based on the same blade blank. Peter said:
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The XIV blade is a derivate of the "Sovereign" tweaked a bit with a single fuller. The outline and size is identical.


Thanks. Very informative. I assumed since they were new, that no information was out there. Therefore, I didn't use the search button.

On 1 thread the Sherrif is called an XIV blade. Learning my lesson-
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The Sherriff XIV Type
Winner: Michael Smith
"The profile of this sword gives it a sense of authority... and it needs a name with authority as well."


And thank god for the 'Preview' button. I would have looked even more stupid without it.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Jesse Smithers wrote:

Thanks. Very informative. I assumed since they were new, that no information was out there. Therefore, I didn't use the search button.

On 1 thread the Sherrif is called an XIV blade. Learning my lesson-
Albion Website wrote:
The Sherriff XIV Type
Winner: Michael Smith
"The profile of this sword gives it a sense of authority... and it needs a name with authority as well."


And thank god for the 'Preview' button. I would have looked even more stupid without it.


Yep, it's a Type XIV. Here's more info on the type if you haven't seen it: http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_spotxiv.html.

If you're curious about the Sovereign at all, there's plenty of info around here. There's a review of the Sovereign by Bill Grandy on the Reviews page. I have pics in my album (accessible from the Album page) of my Sovereign. It's also in my collection (accessible from the Collections page). The collection page and review by Bill also have some basic info on the type.

Have fun!

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Jesse Smithers wrote:
On 1 thread the Sherrif is called an XIV blade. Learning my lesson-
Albion Website wrote:
The Sherriff XIV Type
Winner: Michael Smith
"The profile of this sword gives it a sense of authority... and it needs a name with authority as well."


And thank god for the 'Preview' button. I would have looked even more stupid without it.


It was called just a Type XIV before Michael's name (Sherriff) was chosen in the contest.

Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 9:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mmmmm -- love those German and Irish bastards. Not surprising, since I am part Teuton, part Celt
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I am loving the danish 2 hander Big Grin and the GBSs Eek! ! Are more big ones coming?

Quick question: Why aren't the Talhoffer swords included in the contest?

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Roger Hooper wrote:
Mmmmm -- love those German and Irish bastards. Not surprising, since I am part Teuton, part Celt


And I'd bet the fact that they're all Type XIX's doesn't hurt either, does it Roger! Razz

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: The Next NEXT Next Gens... and another contest...         Reply with quote

Howard Waddell wrote:

http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/sw...extgen.htm

The concept drawings are, as before, only concept drawings -- the final sword (as you saw with the first rounds) may vary slightly, buit the spirit and authenticity will be the same. Individual pages on each sword, along with draft specs and prices will be up soon.

Hope you like the new line-up!

Best,

Howy
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*Drools*

Howy, you guys have some AWESOME stuff in that lineup!

The Poitiers, Mercenary, and the long XVa's are all very sweet, especially the Talhoffer II.

Those German bastards look great!

And that Danish two-hander... wow...

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Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."

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The Reeve is very appealing to me, but that shouldn't come as a suprise to anyone who knows me Big Grin

I also find the Agincourt and the Talhoffer III very nice as well.

The Doge will be a great one to see come to fruition, excellent aesthetic in that one.

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: GBS         Reply with quote

FINALLY!!!!!!! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Peter's German Bastards are probably my all time favorite sword. Now I will have to get BOTH versions......Now we just need a German two hander.

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Prices????

Must know..... Must get the .... Precious Big Grin

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ARGH!!!!!

More German goodness!

And right after I've spent amost $800 on grad school before the first class. First term books alone were almost $500. Only $5000 or so left for tution to come up with this year (in addition to what my employer pays).

ARGH!!!

Anyway that German Bastard I and II look great with all the scent stopper pommel goodness.

Same with the Talhoffer III.

It so sucks that I am not going to have toy money for a long time. Sad

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