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Thomas McDonald
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 Posted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: The Tullie House Sword, c. 875-950 AD |
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The Tullie House Sword
A Sword of the Viking Period, circa 875-950 AD
Found in the Thames in 1840.
A variant of Petersen's type L , and conforms to Wheeler's type VI.
Details:
Reg. No. OM325; 281-1843
Overall length - 37 3/8" in.
Blade length - 31 5/8" in.
Blade width - 2 1/4" in. at the cross.
Fuller width - 1" in. reducing to 1/2" in. (fuller ends 2" in. from tip)
Blade thickness 7/32" in. (maximum)
Grip - 3 3/4" in. (excluding cross & pommel)
Cross - 4 9/16" in.
Pommel - 3 1/8" in. wide with a maximum thickness of 13/16" in.
Point of Balence - 8 1/2" in. below the crossguard( in its present condition without grip)
Weight - 2 lb. 12 oz.
* Photo's & information - The Spring 2004 London Park Lane Arms Fair catalogue, by David Oliver
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for this one Mac!
That must have been quite a sword in it's day.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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A little pommel detail ....
And its beautiful cross ....
Blade markings .....
* Photos: - The Spring 2004 London Park Lane Arms Fair catalogue, copyright David Oliver
Mac
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David McElrea
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Hi Mac,
That's a beauty. In the colour photo there looks like there could be part of an inscription a little ways below the cross-- or it could just be the effects of time (and my tired eyes) playing tricks on me. I tried playing with brightness and contrast but am none the wiser.
If there is, do you know what it says? I would have guessed "Ulfberht" or "ingelrii", but the bit I thought I could see looked like it might have an "o" in there.
Thanks,
David
Edit: Patience is a virtue  You were posting the answer while I was typing the question. Again, Thanks.
Last edited by David McElrea on Thu 30 Dec, 2004 3:58 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Gabriel Stevens
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Wow...that's really something. Thanks!
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Patrick Kelly
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Does it mention if the blade is pattern welded?
It doesn't appear to be, but that's to be expected with a late Viking age sword like this.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Scott Byler
Location: New Mexico Joined: 20 Aug 2003
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Man, that is my kind of sword. Would love to have a reproduction of a piece like this...
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | Does it mention if the blade is pattern welded?
It doesn't appear to be, but that's to be expected with a late Viking age sword like this. |
Hi Patrick
No, the blade is not pattern welded, but the inlayed wire is !
The blade, despite being a river find, is in extemely great shape !
The article states that, as a weapon, it would be as serviceable today as it was when newly made !
(both cutting edges are said to be very well preserved !)
"Such is the balence, elegance, poise and general quailty of this sword, it is full of charisma.
In the hand it springs to life, almost willing one to strike with it . Surely this is a hallmark of a splendid and special weapon."
Mac
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B. Fulton
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| Posted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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If they found it that way, that's surprisingly good condition.
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| B. Fulton wrote: | | If they found it that way, that's surprisingly good condition. |
Hi B
According to the article, the mud in the Thames was the thing that saved this piece, and helped to preserve it !
(basically no oxygen = preservation & no corrosion)
The chemical constituency of the mud of the Thames helps to promote a substance named goethite in the patination, which acts as a preservative !
Mac
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Patrick Kelly
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Several swords similar to this one have been found in the Thames, and the River Witham as well. Mac, the original on which Milestone is based is one of these. They are all in this kind of excellent shape. Apparently the composition of the river bottom mud makes for a nice air tight seal.
Pattern welded inlays are pretty common in later period blades like these. Many mono-steel blades have PW'd panels laid into their surface. This was obviously an indication of quality, or it was simply appealing to a conservative market that was slow to embrace a new manufacturing process. Nothing new there!
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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B. Fulton
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I guess that explains the fairly good condition of all the other swords, knives and axes they've pulled out of the Thames.
Kinda makes me wonder how all that weaponry got there in the first place...... guys killed crossing the river?
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Russ Ellis
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My wife got me a copy of "Swords of the Viking Age" for Christmas and I just flipped through it trying to find this guy. Unfortunately no luck I was hoping to provide some more detail on it. I'm starting to pick up a whole new appreciation for viking age and migration era swords thanks in no small part to that book.
This sword is a great example of something I've been seeing in there namely the absolutely amazing ability to turn out incredible weapons that are also incredible pieces of art using only the most primitive of tools. The more I work on scabbards and move into metal work the more I realize how incredibly complex and difficult many of these jobs would be without the use of power tools. Hats off to those ancients who could do this sort of work.
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Thomas McDonald
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Hi Russ
I'll try and get a few of these articles scanned and put on disk to share with you guys .....
(I'd post them here complete except that I have a feeling I'd be violating more copyright laws than I already tend to push ;-)
There is another cool Viking that is featured in an article next to this one, by Ian Peirce, called:
A Newly Identtified ULFBERHT Inscribed Sword in The Ashmolean Museum, Oxford
(the former piece is in the Tullie House Museum, Carlisle).
This sword was also found in the Thames, near Battersea sometime before 1868.
David Oliver & his Park Lane Arms Fair contributors have just wonderful articles ! Mac
* Photo: - The Spring 2004 London Park Lane Arms Fair catalogue, copyright David Oliver
| Russ Ellis wrote: | My wife got me a copy of "Swords of the Viking Age" for Christmas and I just flipped through it trying to find this guy. Unfortunately no luck I was hoping to provide some more detail on it. I'm starting to pick up a whole new appreciation for viking age and migration era swords thanks in no small part to that book.
This sword is a great example of something I've been seeing in there namely the absolutely amazing ability to turn out incredible weapons that are also incredible pieces of art using only the most primitive of tools. The more I work on scabbards and move into metal work the more I realize how incredibly complex and difficult many of these jobs would be without the use of power tools. Hats off to those ancients who could do this sort of work. |
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Fri 31 Dec, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: |
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That's a beautiful pommel on that last one!
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Thomas McDonald
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Indeed, Patrick, it's quite beautiful !
Here's a shot that shows its cross decoration ....
.... and an overall look at the piece !
1884.121.21.
Date: Late 9th to mid-10th century.
Peterson type: X
OL : 88.4 cm
BL : 76.5 cm
Cross length: 11.1 cm
Grip length: 8.1 cm
Condition: Hilt excellent, blade fairly good on one side but badly corroded upon the other.
* Photos & Info: - The Spring 2004 London Park Lane Arms Fair catalogue, copyright David Oliver
'Gott Bewahr Die Oprechte Schotten'
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