A Tolkien`s Elvin translation question -- myArmoury.com

Karl Knisley

Hello
To any and all Tolkien language buffs:-) . How would you say, " Little stars", in Sindarin ,or what ever dialect spoken in Gondolin ?

Thanks in advance

P.S.
Yes...I do know that Gondolin wasnt a real place :-)

Mark Moore · Posted: Sat 08 Feb, 2014 1:32 pm Post subject:

To be more authentic, I would suggest using Old Norse Runes. I have the whole alphabet before me, just too lazy to type it out ...............mcm

Dan Howard · Posted: Sat 08 Feb, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject:

"little/small": pîn, mîw, niben
"star": êl, elin, geil (pl. gîl)

Dean F. Marino · Posted: Sat 08 Feb, 2014 2:25 pm Post subject:

Hiswelókë's Sindarin dictionary and Ambar Eldaron.... and focusing on the fact you said little STARS (plural)...

pigen N. [pˈigɛn] pl pigin adj. tiny ◇ Ety/382
pîn S. [pˈiːn] adj. little ← Cûl Bîn RC/536
tithen N. [tˈiθɛn] pl. tithin N. [tˈiθin] adj. little, tiny ◇ Ety/394

êl S. [ˈɛːl] pl. elin S. [ˈɛlin] n. Arch., Poet. Astron. star (little used except in verses) ◇ WJ/363, MR/373, RGEO/73, Letters/281
geil N. [gˈɛjl] pl. gîl N. n. Astron. star, bright spark ◇ Ety/358, VT/45:15 ⇒ Cf. gil ◈ giliath S., N. n. coll.

General order for a compound word would be "stars little", using the PLURAL form of the adjective. If you are forming a compound word (say, in the name of a sword) - consider lenition

gîl tithin
gîl pigin
gîl pîn

... in Sindarin, would probably be your best choices for Gondolin (only the kings house spoke Quenya in everday conversation)

Karl Knisley · Posted: Sun 09 Feb, 2014 7:46 am Post subject:

Hello
Thanks guys for the input. Gil Tithin or In Edain, sounds rather cool. I have two star rubies (lab made) I`am wanting to mount in the pommel of a, Orcrist type , falchion, hence "Little Stars"

Thanks again

David McElrea · Posted: Sun 09 Feb, 2014 12:49 pm Post subject:

Hi Karl,

"In edhel, hai edhel. In edain, hai edain" is Dean's signature, not a translation of "Little Stars;" so you don't want to use "In edain."

Dean F. Marino · Posted: Sun 09 Feb, 2014 1:56 pm Post subject:

Karl Knisley · Posted: Sun 09 Feb, 2014 6:31 pm Post subject:

Hello
I guess i dont want to name my sword after you, Dean:-) Gil dithin sounds good. nameing my sword the wrong thing , would be like getting asian letters tattooed on saying "Kick me" :-)

Thanks