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Ricardo S.





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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Two-handed-sword         Reply with quote

Greetings again. Does anyone know anything about this sword. It was for sale on an auction house many years ago. There was a good amount of infformation about it. Can anyone help? Thank you.


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've seen it before...long time ago. I believe it to be a German parade sword. The guard looks more dangerous to the user than the opponent. Laughing Out Loud .......McM
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Moore wrote:
I've seen it before...long time ago. I believe it to be a German parade sword. The guard looks more dangerous to the user than the opponent. Laughing Out Loud .......McM



Lol. Indeed, but that is quite a nice sword. A parade sword, no doubt. But what i am looking for is the description from the auction house, wich is very detailed. Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry.....In other words, I don't believe it to be a 'combat' sword, but rather a symbol of status carried in procession in front of nobility....But I could be wrong. Wink .........McM
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Moore wrote:
Sorry.....In other words, I don't believe it to be a 'combat' sword, but rather a symbol of status carried in procession in front of nobility....But I could be wrong. Wink .........McM


I see. Thank you for your help. I believe you are right. I loosely remember that sword belonged to some Duke's guard. Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/7735.html

I guess this is one of them...
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka is half right: the sword he illustrates is one of a double series of parade swords made for the Guard of Julius, Duke of Brunswick, over two years 1573 and 1574, the swords of each year being numbered separately. The 1573 swords are numbered up to 300 (probably - the highest known is 297), the 1574 series is possibly the same but the highest number known to me is 172. All are dated, numbered and engraved with the Duke's symbol. The sword in this post is certainly a Brunswick sword but does not have this dating or number, and there are other differences. The pommel looks as if it is inscribed but I cannot read it from this photo. It could belong to the Brunswick Civic Guard, as distinct from the Ducal Guard, and was probably made before 1600.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If I'm correct, Deepeeka makes-or did make- a VERY loose interpretation. I've not seen them on a recent website, though. Just FWIW........McM
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You could send an email to this guy to ask about his. They look very similar, if not the same.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This type is a two-handed bearing sword of the City of Brunswick circa 1560-80. A large number of swords of this style were used during processions by the bodyguards of the Duke of Brunswick.
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Vincent....Thanks for posting that link. Some beautiful stuff there. To anyone who has not browsed it yet....go....now. Amazing things await Big Grin ...........McM
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec, 2013 1:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just came across this very nice video on youtube

It includes, among many other pieces, this two hander as well, in a private collection, inspected by German fencing group "zornhau". Apparently, collection is non other than the http://www.fricker-historische-waffen.de linked above, but in a nice medieval castle rather than web-site Happy.
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/7735.html

I guess this is one of them...



Yes indeed. Great resemblance. Thank you Luka.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Neil Melville wrote:
Luka is half right: the sword he illustrates is one of a double series of parade swords made for the Guard of Julius, Duke of Brunswick, over two years 1573 and 1574, the swords of each year being numbered separately. The 1573 swords are numbered up to 300 (probably - the highest known is 297), the 1574 series is possibly the same but the highest number known to me is 172. All are dated, numbered and engraved with the Duke's symbol. The sword in this post is certainly a Brunswick sword but does not have this dating or number, and there are other differences. The pommel looks as if it is inscribed but I cannot read it from this photo. It could belong to the Brunswick Civic Guard, as distinct from the Ducal Guard, and was probably made before 1600.
Neil


That's a nice amount of information. Thank you very much for taking time to write all this. I will save this in my database. Regards.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Moore wrote:
If I'm correct, Deepeeka makes-or did make- a VERY loose interpretation. I've not seen them on a recent website, though. Just FWIW........McM


I see. I will try to find it. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Vincent C wrote:
You could send an email to this guy to ask about his. They look very similar, if not the same.

http://www.fricker-historische-waffen.de/en/i...ekt-nr-952


WOW. Looks very similar indeed. I will try to get a response from him. Thank you a lot!
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
This type is a two-handed bearing sword of the City of Brunswick circa 1560-80. A large number of swords of this style were used during processions by the bodyguards of the Duke of Brunswick.


Very nice. I got those photos from an online auction. I don't remember wich auction house. If you want i can post all photos i have.
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Erdeniz S wrote:
Just came across this very nice video on youtube

It includes, among many other pieces, this two hander as well, in a private collection, inspected by German fencing group "zornhau". Apparently, collection is non other than the http://www.fricker-historische-waffen.de linked above, but in a nice medieval castle rather than web-site Happy.


WOW, that is quite an amazing video. I wish i could visit the castle Sad
Gonna watch on my tv and save in my database. Thank you very very much.

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