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Nicholas Shkreli
Location: New York Joined: 21 Jul 2013
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 Posted: Thu 05 Sep, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: Want to change my pommel on my Albion Sword |
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This is my first sword i bought and was wondering where I would go to change the pommel. I want a wheel pommel and not the current pommel i have.
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Mike Capanelli
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While you can change the pommel, it'd be nice if you gave us a little more information like what Albion it is (There's a lot of them) why you think it needs a different pommel, what are you using this sword for, so on and so forth. Changing the pommel will effect how the sword handles so you should be aware of that. Oh, and I picture is worth a thousand words.
Winter is coming
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Roger Hooper
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One of the best places to have this done is at Yeshuas sword -
Christian Fletcher is another.
As Mike says, changing the pommel is a delicate operation. The wrong replacement pommel will throw off the sword's balance. It should be done by someone who really knows what they are doing.
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Ian Hutchison
Location: Louisiana / Nordrhein-Westholland Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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I'll second Roger. Working with Ernie at Yeshua's sword has been a positive experience so far.
'We are told that the pen is mightier than the sword, but I know which of these weapons I would choose.' - Adrian Carton de Wiart
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Robert B. Marks
Location: Kingston, Ont. Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri 06 Sep, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Roger Hooper wrote: | One of the best places to have this done is at Yeshuas sword -
Christian Fletcher is another.
As Mike says, changing the pommel is a delicate operation. The wrong replacement pommel will throw off the sword's balance. It should be done by someone who really knows what they are doing. |
And I'll second Christian Fletcher.
Robert Marks
Darksword Armory, Inc.
www.darksword-armory.com
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Daniel Wallace
Location: Pennsylvania USA Joined: 07 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Fri 06 Sep, 2013 8:59 am Post subject: |
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changing out pummels like stated above is a little bit on the tricky side, changing a pummel a few ounces can really throw off the swords harmony. maybe ascetically your choice will look better, but a change in the weight of the pummel not only changes that POB in the sword, but also its harmonic balance. adding or subtracting weight will cause the nodes of vibration to travel up or down the blade, and its counter node, which should be at your hand, the same which may cause the sword to wiggle pretty violently in your hand if your practicing with this sword.
as long as the pommel's weight remains about the same as the one your swapping out then you probably won't notice a change at all.
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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as long as the pommel's weight remains about the same as the one your swapping out then you probably won't notice a change at all. |
I don't think you can stop at weight. Even if the weight is the same, handling could change if the weight is distributed differently on the new pommel. If you took a scent stopper pommel, whose weight is on the end farthest from the grip and flipped it around (so the weight is right by your hand), that would likely change things a bit, even though the weight is exactly the same.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Matthew P. Adams
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It can be done. Albions longer XVa's the Fiore, Talhoffer, Ringneck, and Agincourt all have different pommels on the same blade, two scent stopper, and two disks. The Ringneck and Fiore even have the same cross, so other than the pommels they are the same sword. They my handle a little differently but does one or the other suffer from having a different pommel?
"We do not rise to the level of our expectations. We fall to the level of our training" Archilochus, Greek Soldier, Poet, c. 650 BC
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Patrick Kelly
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Which Albion is it? If it's one that shares a common blade with several others in the line, it might be more cost effective to sell it and buy one with a pommel of the desired shape.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Chad Arnow
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| Matthew P. Adams wrote: | | It can be done. Albions longer XVa's the Fiore, Talhoffer, Ringneck, and Agincourt all have different pommels on the same blade, two scent stopper, and two disks. The Ringneck and Fiore even have the same cross, so other than the pommels they are the same sword. They my handle a little differently but does one or the other suffer from having a different pommel? |
The pommels were designed to work properly with the existing blade and new guards (where applicable). Their shapes, sizes, and weights were chosen carefully based on Peter's experience. Sure, you can swap pommels and make a sword just as good (but perhaps different) or even better, but it needs to be done carefully and weight isn't the only consideration.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Matthew P. Adams
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That is true. I think that in those examples the scent stoppers weigh in a few ounces less than the disks to account for the weight being further from the center of rotation.
"We do not rise to the level of our expectations. We fall to the level of our training" Archilochus, Greek Soldier, Poet, c. 650 BC
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This is a standard topic