12-13 century Great Helm reproduction -- myArmoury.com

Foong Chen Hong

So I saw alot of these great helms out there that are not really historical accurate and these does are really hard to find.

So beside Royal Oak armoury, Arms & Armoury and manning imperial.

Do any of you know more armourer that make historical accurate great helms and sell them?(and not overpriced for my currency)

Gregory J. Liebau · Posted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject:

Some decent stuff posted in this thread:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...great+helm

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject:

I done some research myself, what I am looking for is people that make them

Gregory J. Liebau · Posted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject:

I posted several makers in that thread with examples of their work. If you care to look at it you will see; it's the sixth post.

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject:

Gregory J. Liebau · Posted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject:

Well, do realize that all of the armorers posted - both by myself and those you mentioned already - deal primarily with custom work. Their previous work posted on their sites is only exemplary, and they generally take custom commissions. Depending on the quality and finish you desire, almost any of those mentioned can make any helm style. There are several more but since I already added my share I'll let others chime in. Tomorrow if no one's mentioned a couple that I have in mind I'll get back to you with more options. For now I must be off! Cheers.

-Gregory

Brian Robson · Posted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 8:25 am Post subject:

For Great-helms, you need to nail down the period more. They change quite a bit through that time, and are one of the main things in a high-medieval interpretation that will determine which decade you're doing..

I wouldn't really say we had great-helms in the 12c - but helmets with faceplates started to appear in the last 20 years (but were still quite rare). Early 13c showed these evolve to the more familiar barrel-shaped helm. Mid-13c saw them start to experiment with more shaping/glancing surfaces and the end of the 13c started to see the more swept-back top-halves of the helmets.

For mid-13c (my era of focus) - I like these:

http://www.kovexars.cz/index.php?poloha=zbran...na=Helmets - Look at the "Rounded Helmet" They look mutch better in person..

And my favourite by far (after spending a LOT of time looking through suppliers):
http://jollyknight.com.ua/armoury/product_inf...cts_id=117

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 9:27 am Post subject:

Matthew P. Adams · Posted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject:

http://www.wintertreecrafts.com/catalogues/helms.html

Eric makes these for WMA so the picture shows optional pierced steel eye protection, also they are made smaller than many historic examples because these are made to be the sole head protection and not to fit over a secondary helmet or secret.

He makes them to order though so you can hash out details, I would trust this helmet to take quite a beating. I have one of his brigantine gorgets and the quality is excellent. I've also met him a few times at various events and he is great to deal with, trustworthy, and all around good guy. There are rumors of gauntlets, and I can't wait to see what he turns out.

Mart Shearer · Posted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 9:14 pm Post subject:

Just a reminder that the Pembridge helm is thought to date to the 1370s, well beyond the 13th century.

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995153_10200222741162920_905786997_n.jpg
I based this off the French great helm shown in the Morgan M.638 Maciejowski Bible during mid 13 century.

I will see if I can get it made

Brandt Giese · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject:

Check out Albion's great helm.

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 7:06 pm Post subject:

Brandt Giese · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject:

What is not accurate?

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 7:22 pm Post subject:

Brandt Giese · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject:

That is an Albion Mark piece not a fantasy piece so please enlighten me on what exactly is not accurate. We do not have many surviving examples of 13c helms and artwork is sketchy at best.

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 8:13 pm Post subject:

They based it off the dargen with their own twist in it, so I'd rather get Royal Oak's dargen helm

Brandt Giese · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject:

If Lars based his on the Dargen helm with his own twist that does not make it historically inaccurate. I missed that you were looking for a historical reproduction of an authentic 12 or 13c Great Helm. I guess you could say that all of Albion's swords other that their museum line are historically inaccurate using this argument. I am truly curious to hear from myArmoury's experts to the historical inaccuracies of this helm.

Foong Chen Hong · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject:

Brandt Giese · Posted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: