| Author |
Message |
T. Arndt
|
 Posted: Tue 03 Jul, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: HEMA Spear Books |
 |
|
Does anyone know of a HEMA book based in the Liechtenauer tradition that provides good coverage of the spear material from Talhoffer, Meyer, Kal, von Danzig, Mair etc?
I found a couple on Amazon, but they were either out of print, or had less than stellar reviews.
Thanks.
Wisconsin Historical Fencing Association (WHFA) - La Crosse
A HEMA Alliance Affiliate
“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” -Juvenal
|
|
   |
 |
Scott Hanson
|
|
|
|
|
T. Arndt
|
| Posted: Tue 03 Jul, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hey Scott,
| Scott Hanson wrote: | | ....I'll bring mine along next time we meet. |
Great, I look forward to checking them out! I've been wanting to add spear to my solo drilling.
| Scott Hanson wrote: | | ....Most staff work is highly applicable to spear, in my opinion. |
Totally agreed on that point. Bill's excellent intro class at WMAW really impressed that fact on me.
A spear is a staff that is happens to also be above average at thrusting 
Wisconsin Historical Fencing Association (WHFA) - La Crosse
A HEMA Alliance Affiliate
“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” -Juvenal
|
|
|
|
|
Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
|
| Posted: Tue 03 Jul, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
In fact, not only can the spear be used as a staff, but some of the 16th century sources illustrate them interchangeably. Also, Talhoffer shows some spear work with the techniques that look just like the poleaxe. And the spear work seen in the armored treatises largely mirrors the techniques seen with the halfsword.
So the cool part is that if you do just about any of the medieval weapons, then you already have at least a basic foundation for spear.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
|
|
|
|
|
|
Timo Nieminen
|
| Posted: Tue 03 Jul, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Chinese tradition often uses spear and staff interchangeably - a spear is just a staff with a blade on the end. (Shaolin spear was criticised in the late Ming by one writer for being just staff technique, so some disagreed.)
So, in the Chinese tradition, take sources like Silver and Swetnam which cover staff (especially long staff), and apply to spear. Staying in Liechtenauer, you have Meyer, who explicitly uses staff as the foundation for the other long hafted weapons in the Chinese style.
"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
|
|
|
|
|
Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
|
| Posted: Tue 03 Jul, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Timo Nieminen wrote: | | So, in the Chinese tradition, take sources like Silver and Swetnam which cover staff (especially long staff), and apply to spear. Staying in Liechtenauer, you have Meyer, who explicitly uses staff as the foundation for the other long hafted weapons in the Chinese style. |
Well, if you're looking at period sources rather than modern books, then it's much better to just look directly at the spear material, of which we have heaps of information. But, yes, it's all part of the same overarching artform.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
|
|
|
|
|
T. Arndt
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
All contents © Copyright 2003-2024 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum
|
This is a standard topic