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Matthew P. Adams
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Posted: Tue 24 Apr, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bill, (or anyone who's handled both)
How would you say it compares to the Dane? That has always been on top of my "when I win the lotto" list .
"We do not rise to the level of our expectations. We fall to the level of our training" Archilochus, Greek Soldier, Poet, c. 650 BC
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Kai Lawson
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Posted: Tue 24 Apr, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Matthew--
I'm no expert by any means, but I'd say that after handling both side by side, the two fell about what you'd expect:
The Dane is long and rigid, with some 'cutting' feel, but much more of a 'thrusting' feel, either from the ricasso or in halfswording, or just tightly gripped.
The Maximillian feels like it could cut both with closer in draw-style cuts, or with a more sweeping blow, with relatively limited thrust potential (though still some, against soft targets). It also feels more natural for a larger sword, at least to me. The Dane feels like a long sword, but also like a big spike. The Maximillian feels like I could stab or cut or hack or slice at something, and the sword would perform just fine, provided I didn't do anything stupid with it. The Maximillian grip is also flatter, making edge alignment easier than the Dane, generally speaking, but both grips are great.
The Dane feels like it's weight to me, well balanced but all there. The Maximillian I initially guessed at roughly a pound lighter than it is--it even feels that way to me statically.
The real folks can chime in now, I've said my piece.
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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Ed Toton
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr, 2012 11:13 am Post subject: |
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That's a pretty good comparison.
The Dane is a little more thrusting-oriented, but it can still cut well. Compared to the Maximilian, it's about a half-pound lighter even though it is several inches longer, so it feels a little more agile. But they're in the same overall size class, and are both pretty strictly two-handed swords.
I tend to like my swords a little lighter and a little more "thrusty" in general, so for me the Dane is the one I wanted. But having handled the Maximilian briefly, I certainly like it. It's like the Baron on steroids.
-Ed T. Toton III
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Bill Grandy
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I've handled Ed's Dane, and I also feel it's a little more "lively". The balance makes it less oriented for the powerful types of cuts that the Maximillian can do (but that doesn't mean it doesn't do serious cuts), but the thicker and more acute point clearly makes it a superior thruster.
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Benjamin Floyd II
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Posted: Fri 15 Jun, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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How would you guys guess the last third of the blade would flex if it was blocked while the user is performing a prellhau (flat strike)? For clarity: how much would the tip deflect past the block towards the opponent?
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Bill Grandy
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Posted: Fri 15 Jun, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Benjamin Floyd II wrote: | How would you guys guess the last third of the blade would flex if it was blocked while the user is performing a prellhau (flat strike)? For clarity: how much would the tip deflect past the block towards the opponent? |
Benjamin,
Are you at Longpoint right now? (There are a bunch of Benjamin's, and I can't ever remember who is who because I'm a dunce) I can bring the Maximillian on Sunday, if you want, so you can see for yourself. I'm local enough to the event.
But the short answer is: Not a lot. It's flexible, but it isn't -that- flexible.
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"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Benjamin Floyd II
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Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Benjamin Floyd II wrote: | No, I wasn't there. |
Ah, that's good, then. Now I don't feel bad that I completely forgot to bring it.
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"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Kai Lawson
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Posted: Mon 08 Oct, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just got my Max today--
the furniture is tumbled, and is a slightly darker, smoky metal. It looks quite nice in person, but I am utterly unable to convey that in these cruddy pictures.
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"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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