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Michal Plezia
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Dagger from Historisches Museum, Bern, Switzerland         Reply with quote

Does anyone have more pictures of this piece (3rd from left)?

http://www.armabohemia.cz/imgnew/epees/epees/ep51v4.jpg


Google wasn't much help.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is a beautiful baselard! I've never seen it before and would like to know more about it myself.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Maybe I can help you, but I will have to have a look in my old catalogues.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry I can't help you.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a pity Jens. But thanks for trying Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

No info, but I agree with everyone else--that's a GORGEOUS baselard!
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a photo of the hilt.


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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The strange thing is, that I could not find it in the 1912 Moser catalogue, which was Moser's private catalogue, two years before he gave his collection to the Historisches Museum Bern.
This is a story of its own, and I will spear you the details, but to make it short, the collection has been taken down, at least twice, and for years, although it should have been on exhibition all the time, according to the treaty with Moser - and it is, at the moment in the reserves.
I just got a mail showing the dagger, so all should be fine.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michal,
Are you quite sure the dagger is from the Moser Collection?
You write that it is from Historisches Museum, Bern, Switzerland – and that is where the Moser Collection is.
I have seen the collection many years ago in the reserves, before it was put up for exhibition again, and I saw it then, but I don’t recall to have seen it – I could have forgotten it L.
I have however been looking through the Moser catalogue from 1912, the one from 1914 and the one from 1955, and in none of them I can find a dagger like the one you want to know more about.
There may not be a picture of it in the catalogue, or the dagger may belong to the museum, and not a part of the Moser collection.
Try to ask them about the dagger here info@bhm.ch they are rather good at English, so don’t bother to write in German.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Sep, 2011 2:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan thanks for the picture.

Jens - I'm not sure where the dagger is, I've trusted the info on armabohemia.

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Sep, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's stunning! I'd love to make a baselard. Maybe I can find a broken sword blade somewhere.
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