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Valentino Paolilla




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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug, 2011 3:20 pm    Post subject: Show Us Your Crusader Swords         Reply with quote

The Crusade era, is probably one of the most influential era's of all time. A lot of our future history today pertaining to the "Holy Land", transpired within that time frame. Here is one of my Crusader swords. I have two in total; both from Albion. I'll post the other one as soon as I take & upload photo's... Let's see your collection...


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Nathan Quarantillo




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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug, 2011 9:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just what makes a "Crusader" sword? One from the period, or specifically connected to a military order or Crusader state?
And does the Baltic Crusades and reconquista work?

BTW, beautiful sword.

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Valentino Paolilla




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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Quarantillo wrote:
Just what makes a "Crusader" sword? One from the period, or specifically connected to a military order or Crusader state?
And does the Baltic Crusades and reconquista work?

BTW, beautiful sword.



Thanks, for the compliment... The Crusade era would be from 1095 to 1291. That specific era. Doesn't matter if it is just a plain old Crusader sword, or from a military order such as the Knights Templar, Knights Hospitaller, etc... That specific era, though...

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My favorite era! I can't take a new photo right now so here are some recycled shots for the time being.

My crusader line-up about a year ago: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/crusader_era_swords_212.jpg

And a couple of newer additions:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/a_a_swords_166.jpg (the one on the right)
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/hart_2_162.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is my most-recent Late Crusader addition, a custom Gus Trim double-fullered Type XIIa I had worked up by Custom Sword Shoppe; complete with Jerusalem Cross themed hardware and scabbard Happy :






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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
My favorite era! I can't take a new photo right now so here are some recycled shots for the time being.

My crusader line-up about a year ago: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/crusader_era_swords_212.jpg

And a couple of newer additions:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/a_a_swords_166.jpg (the one on the right)
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/hart_2_162.jpg


I didn't know you had a Vigil J.D.

I am almost done paying off one and am really looking forward to it.

Wonderful collection BTW.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:

I didn't know you had a Vigil J.D.

I am almost done paying off one and am really looking forward to it.

Wonderful collection BTW.


Thanks Jeremy. Actually that is the Ollin Hart Sword, presumably based on the same original. The Ollin is nice, but I think your Vigil will be a bit nicer. Here is my nit-picking review (I don't think many people noticed it):

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=23454
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Valentino Paolilla




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
My favorite era! I can't take a new photo right now so here are some recycled shots for the time being.

My crusader line-up about a year ago: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/crusader_era_swords_212.jpg

And a couple of newer additions:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/a_a_swords_166.jpg (the one on the right)
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/files/hart_2_162.jpg


Very nice collection... I see a few Albions in there, & the Arms & Armor St. Maurice Sword... Very nice indeed! I will take pictures of my other crusader sword this week... But you are right; that was an exceptional era. Only if we were able to travel back to that era with our sword's... Wink

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Valentino Paolilla




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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

JE Sarge wrote:
Here is my most-recent Late Crusader addition, a custom Gus Trim double-fullered Type XIIa I had worked up by Custom Sword Shoppe; complete with Jerusalem Cross themed hardware and scabbard Happy :








Awesome piece, brother! Sonny did an excellent job on that. I viewed it already on Facebook. I have another project in the works right now with Christian Fletcher; a custom sword & scabbard. I think after that one, I will hit Sonny up for something. I'm going for the Albion Prince, or the Albion Kingmaker... Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug, 2011 10:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I need to add some pics to this thread!

Unfortunately, I am in the middle of a move so I will get them up as soon as I can.

I love this period!
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The ones I have at the moment that could fit into 1095 - 1291 (I hope for some changes in this part of my collection soon Wink ):











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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Discount the sword on lower left.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Custome Odinblade damascus broadsword with crusader theme:









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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ahh, I too love this period.
Here are my crusades era swords.
First, the group shot arranged by Oakeshott classification.
Top Row:
Albion Reeve, Vigil, custom Del Tin 2133, Albion Gaddhjalt, Arn, Norman, St. Maurice of Turin, Templar, Oakeshott, and Ritter.
Bottom Row:
Custom Ollin type XII, Albion SL Knightly, Knight, SL Great Sword, Baron, Duke, Tritonia, Sovereign, and Vassal.






I hope you like them,
Dan
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Valentino Paolilla




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan... Now that is a very serious collection... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Aug, 2011 5:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan Dickinson wrote:
Ahh, I too love this period.
Here are my crusades era swords.
First, the group shot arranged by Oakeshott classification.
Top Row:
Albion Reeve, Vigil, custom Del Tin 2133, Albion Gaddhjalt, Arn, Norman, St. Maurice of Turin, Templar, Oakeshott, and Ritter.
Bottom Row:
Custom Ollin type XII, Albion SL Knightly, Knight, SL Great Sword, Baron, Duke, Tritonia, Sovereign, and Vassal.

I hope you like them,
Dan


Whoah! Nice line up Dan. So you are the owner of that custom Ollin - I have seen it on their web-site. Is it based on the sword pictured below? I found this picture on-line and wondered if its the real thing.

On another note, did you ever work up that A&A blade I sent you?

-JD

PS - Patrick, must be very nice to own an original Peter Johnson.



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PostPosted: Thu 11 Aug, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is my sword of the crusades era.
The DSA Norman.



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PostPosted: Thu 11 Aug, 2011 7:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

WOW Dan!

I didn't know you have such an extensive collection of this period. Quite impressive.

What kind of grip treatment are you planning for your Vigil.

Here's a question you may or may not be able to answer. Which sword is your favorite at the moment?
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks guys,
@ J.D. Yep, that's the one it's based on Happy As far as the A&A blade, I'm afraid it's part of the 10 or so crusades era bare blades in my possession that I'm in various stages of designing/building hilts for.

@ Jeremy. For the Vigil, I'm planning on doing a multi-risered grip as on the Arn and Squire. As to which one is my favorite........that's very hard to say. I love so many of them Happy I love the way the Reeve moves, the Arn looks, the Oakeshott balances etc. However, I guess right now I'm really appreciating the Museum Line/almost museum line swords (a la the Vigil and Oakeshott) for how they are exacting re-creations of individual originals. They may have had some slight aesthetic tweaks (such as making both ends of the Vigil's cross flair the same), but essentially you are holding the original as it would have been when new. I feel this gives me a much better sense of what would have been important to the original owner. It may not be something that appeals immediately to our modern perceptions (such as the very far out POB on the St. Maurice), but I believe there were good reasons for why quality swords were made that way (though I'm sure there were actual lemons too).
If I had to pick just one though, I would have to say the Vigil. It moves and balances wonderfully, is extremely aesthetically pleasing and is an almost perfect re-creation of my all time favorite original.
Sorry for the long-winded reply that I guess I could have answered in one word Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug, 2011 9:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

OK, here's an updated photo of my crusader era line-up (BTW, the customized DT2130 in the left fan will likely go for sale soon):


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