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Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Greg Mele wrote: | Now, you want to go earlier, and I am thinking that I need a nice mid-15th c partial harness! Milanese, however. Although most folks love gothic armour, I just really don't care for sallets, whereas I'm a huge fan of barbutes and armets! I'd love to eventually do a full, Milanese harness in spring, but I think about the pricepoint and get a little dizzy.... |
I hear you. I've always wanted a replica of a particular famous Milanese piece held in Vienna (pic below). But I need to finish my gothic harness first. It's *almost* there, and a few of the pieces will need replacing eventually, and then I might start working on a second early-to-mid 14th century piece.
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The one on the right is my second favorite 15th c. harness. My first favorite is the Sigismund of Tyrol piece, also in the same museum.
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Gert-Jan Beukers
Location: Voorhout, The Netherlands Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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this is my new outfit :
I'm at the right with the Black Sallet and my new crossbow
Close-up of my little shield I wear attached to my left arm
underneath I wear a small breastplate (more of bellyplate) and I hope you like my outfit!
Correct me if I'm wrong.... I'm dutch
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Gert-Jan Beukers wrote: |
underneath I wear a small breastplate (more of bellyplate) and I hope you like my outfit! |
That would be a yes I like your outfit.
Would your belly plate be a bit like a Plackard like this one in principle if not in detail ( without faulds maybe ).
http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/product_inf...ucts_id=38
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Gert-Jan Beukers
Location: Voorhout, The Netherlands Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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this is the bellyplate I wear, it is made by Marek. It is very useful when I fight as crossbowman
Correct me if I'm wrong.... I'm dutch
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Arek Przybylok
Location: Upper Silesia Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 112
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun, 2011 1:21 am Post subject: |
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What does the shield on his arm? This is a solution of the era (15th? 16th century?)
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Gert-Jan Beukers
Location: Voorhout, The Netherlands Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun, 2011 3:14 am Post subject: |
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It's late 15th century, the shield on the arm is very useful when fighting with a pike, It protects my shoulder en parts of my face. I found many pictures of pikemen wearing small shields on their lower and upper arms.
Correct me if I'm wrong.... I'm dutch
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Arek Przybylok
Location: Upper Silesia Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun, 2011 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Could you show me?
I know only from the rectangular cut-out arms. I know them a little, mostly Burgundian.
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William Frisbee
Location: South Shore, MA Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun, 2011 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Greg Mele wrote: | William,
Normally, like a good Italian, just mail - I really dislike spaulders. t is ironic that Italians develop the huge pauldrons, but often, even in the 1450s - 1470s, are just shown wearing mail on the shoulders.
However, I am going to ask Jeff Wasson to make a pair of a-symmetrical spaulders/early pauldrons of the kind found in the Pissani-Dossi Fiore.
Yes and no! I did not want to replicate one source/piece, but rather go with something that would have been considered a relatively fine harness in northern Italy, c.1410 but old-fashioned by 1420. That is why I stuck with the standard bascinet, not a proto-armet or a great bascinet (although I have slowly come to love those), and why it is a simple, half-cuirass and not the segemented, full cuirass of the Churburg S-18.
What I essentially did was take a look at a variety of sources c. 1390 - 1415, chief of which was the harness in the Getty and Pisani-Dossi Fiore manuscripts, the Churburg S-18 (which is particularly similar to those found in the latter Ms), the effigy of Jacopo Cavalli (1391) and a late 14th c painting by Altichiero and c..1415 painting by Pisanello. I'd say that Cavalli and the Churburg S-18 were the main influences.
There are certainly similarities with the Pistoia Altar Piece, but as I recall that is more like 1360s. |
Such a pleasure to speak/write with someone who does about as much research into his kit as I do.
Great work.
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Craig Shackleton
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun, 2011 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm finally getting around to uploading my harness. Funny thing, it isn't me wearing it in this particular picture. I'm also tryinh out the img feature of these boards for the first time.
Most of this is from Merc Tailor. The helmet is from Armour and Castings with an aventail from Atlanta Armoury, the spaulders are from Wintertree Crafts, the gauntlets and sabatons are from Jolly Knight, The sword is from Armoury Marek, and the arming coat is from Revival clothing.
The straps on the fauld weren't buckled up for this picture, and he's wearing our club uniform fencing knickers instead of hosen, and mail is seriously lacking.
Of course, I now want to move my whole kit to an earlier period...
Ottawa Swordplay
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Greg Mele
Industry Professional
Location: Chicago, IL USA Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 356
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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William Frisbee wrote: |
Such a pleasure to speak/write with someone who does about as much research into his kit as I do.
Great work. |
Thanks William. When I was a wee tyke (16), I joined the SCA and one of the first people I met was Doug Strong of the ARS. So besides having access to Doug's ridiculously large library, infectious enthusiasm and love of armour of this era, I'd like to think I was mentored pretty well in how to research armour.
The harness came together a bit differently than planned, as the cuirass was a literal impulse buy - it was on sale at Anshelm's Pennsic booth and it fit me almost perfectly! But overall I'm pretty happy and feel like I was able to get the overall line and look right (thanks to the craftsmanship of some really fine armourers!).
And btw, I love the way your new kit is turning out!
Greg Mele
Chicago Swordplay Guild
www.chicagoswordplayguild.com
www.freelanceacademypress.com
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Hendrik De Coster
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Posted: Thu 09 Jun, 2011 12:33 am Post subject: |
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here's a part of a burgundian tapestry depicting a fight between two armoured men fighting with a vouge française and a glaive. one of them is depicted with a "targe" like they say in french or what others know as an ecranche etc
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Robert Rootslane
Location: Estonia Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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Posted: Sun 26 Jun, 2011 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Decided to go birch bark hunting with my girlfriend. This is what we ended up with. Also decided to wear 12 century reenactment costume for the right "feeling"
Anyway this is my soft kit. 12. century Estonia.
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Ben van Koert
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Posted: Sun 26 Jun, 2011 10:48 am Post subject: |
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A few weeks ago we did a living history event at a small castle, like we did last year.
This year I brought my camera's and we fooled around with them a bit, here are the results:
1: The living history film
A knight receives an important guest, traveling through his lands, so he has prepared a banquet for him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHjoNaLVlD4
2: The fighting film
Training various techniques, unarmed, dagger, sword and pollaxe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ijy8Ky_vrI
We didn't intend to make any specific video or any video at all, so this is just our normal bimbling around. We liked it so much, however, we put it online. In the dighting film there's a small bit of a demonstration we did at the Army museum, but it fitted right in. I hope you guys like it.
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Thomas R.
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E. Storesund
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Posted: Mon 27 Jun, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Here's me in my kit. I'm currently in the works of doing quite a few improvements to it, as there are few elements of it I'm entirely happy about. My ultimate goal is to do an 8th century, i.e. late vendel (or Merovingian period according to Norwegian terms) noble.
Not so much arms and armour in this picture. Unless we are to use "axe" in musical terms. Even then we're probably talking more of a frame saw than anything else.
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Kevin Winter
Location: Alaska Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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Posted: Mon 27 Jun, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm extremely impressed with the quality and quantity of kit you fellows have.
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William Frisbee
Location: South Shore, MA Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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Posted: Tue 05 Jul, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm very happy today. Maxim sent me the images of my finished leg harness for my new kit.
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Brett Whinnen
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Posted: Sun 10 Jul, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: |
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This is a not so good photo of me in the start of my kit, taken by my wife on her iPhone, she missed the chausses and shoes as we were waiting in line to get into the Abbey Medieval Tournament yesterday I still need to tailor the sleeves on the hauberk to make them, a) shorter and b) smaller diameter, as well as make my coif and integrated mittens
I'm wearing a linen shirt, linen braies (from Revival Clothing), linen gambeson (made by me), alternate riveted/solid ring mild steel mail (CAS/Iberia - GDFB), linen surcoat (made by me, green also dyed by me) and linen chausses with leather norman shoes (Revival Clothing) and carrying my shield and the VA Crusader sword. I left my ring belt on the table at home (d'oh!) so had to do with just the sword belt.
The kit is going to be 12th century based in the end.
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Back
Taken by my son (5 years old).
The kits in here have really been my inspiration in wanting to try and make this as good as I can afford. So I have to thank you all, and I am sure my wife is cursing you all
Brett
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Chuck Russell
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Posted: Sun 10 Jul, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Scott Hrouda
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Posted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Very nice Chuck! Can you tell us about the ballock dagger on your belt? It looks wonderful in the photographs.
...and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped. - Sir Bedevere
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