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Mark Moore
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 Posted: Fri 06 Aug, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: Great swords! |
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Love the new line! The Knight model would sure look good if it were offered in the straight guard as shown , OR a Highland style downturned guard and rivet block. HINT...hinthint.....  .....MCM.
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Howard Waddell
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| Posted: Sat 07 Aug, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: Re: Great swords! |
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| Mark Moore wrote: | | Love the new line! The Knight model would sure look good if it were offered in the straight guard as shown , OR a Highland style downturned guard and rivet block. HINT...hinthint..... .....MCM. |
In the near future, we will be offering some hilt variations oin existing blades in the NG line, ranging in price from $500 and up, depending on the complexity of the hilt. Some will be the same fittings as the Squire line (with minor changes and better finish) and there will be some new variations just in the NG line. One I am personally anxious for is a straight guard, convex pommel with our XI blade (currently on the Ritter), based on a sword from the Royal Armoury.
So keep hinting...
Best,
Howy
Albion Swords Ltd
http://albion-swords.com
http://filmswords.com
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Mark Moore
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| Posted: Sat 07 Aug, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: It just keeps gettin' better and better.... |
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Howy, that last little tidbit of info just makes my day. It seems that pretty soon, as Albion grows and expands, the customer will just about be able to pick and choose a sword of a complete custom nature. Within reason, that is. Way cool. Keep hinting, huh? Okay.....could we have 'em hand-delivered....by the Swedish bikini team?....With some beer?  ....MCM.
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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WOW Keep hinting....... well, a nice sword medal would be cool to,
with sword and all
 (JOKE)
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Darwin Todd
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| Posted: Sat 07 Aug, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: Speaking of cross variations |
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Hilt variations on the Next Gen line? That sounds really cool. I for one wpould love to see the Knight with a style 6 cross, like in Oakeshotte's "Records.." type XII numbers 15 and 17.
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Joe Fults
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I think the idea of hilt variations is a great way to extend the line.
Hopefully some alternate pommels will come around as well.
As I practice application more regularly, I'm finding my preferences adapting again.
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
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Howard Waddell
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and here are the waxes for the Squire Line Late 15th Century Bastard sword...
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Albion Swords Ltd
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http://filmswords.com
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Mike Fletcher
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| Howard Waddell wrote: | | and here are the waxes for the Squire Line Late 15th Century Bastard sword... |
Very nice!
Sorry in advance if it has been already posted, but what is the grip length on this one?
Thanks,
Mike
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Roger Hooper
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I like that XVa a lot. The only thing that worries me is that it looks a little too pointy for safe reenactment use.
I like the XIIa too, especially the squashed, not quite round pommel.
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Howard Waddell
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| Roger Hooper wrote: | I like that XVa a lot. The only thing that worries me is that it looks a little too pointy for safe reenactment use.
I like the XIIa too, especially the squashed, not quite round pommel. |
Hey Roger!
We plan to round the points for swords intended for reenactment, and not on swords requested sharp.
Best,
Howy
Albion Swords Ltd
http://albion-swords.com
http://filmswords.com
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Michael P Smith
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Any chance of a late medieval single hander for the squire line? I'm looking for something suited to I.33 work. A type XVI would be great... sorta an analogue of the squire/Prince of the next gen line, The type XVa would work, but might be a tad heavy.
Mike
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Howard Waddell
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| Posted: Thu 12 Aug, 2004 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Michael P Smith wrote: | Any chance of a late medieval single hander for the squire line? I'm looking for something suited to I.33 work. A type XVI would be great... sorta an analogue of the squire/Prince of the next gen line, The type XVa would work, but might be a tad heavy.
Mike |
One that we are currently discussing is a single-fullered Type XIV suitable for sword and buckler work...
Best,
Howy
Albion Swords Ltd
http://albion-swords.com
http://filmswords.com
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Timothy Gulics
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Wow, these will be a great addition to Albion's existing lines...
I'm trying to determine how exactly they compare to the NG's. Obviously Albion's original intent is to make these blunt, but they do offer sharpening as well. I'm sure the blade geometry will be slightly different here, since these aren't meant to cut, but how much different really? A lot of these Squires are shaping up to be just like a NG... and at half the price.
Will the NG prices come down once the Squires are released? If not, what makes a NG that much better than a Squire? Obviously there are some lines with differences... the Squire viking looks like a NG Hersir, but the Hersir actually has a correct two-part pommel and wire whereas the Squire does not... but others do not have this level of physical differentiation. At least not from what I can tell, by looking at the blades and waxes shown here...
Just a buyer being curious
The sword is my companion.
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Jason Dingledine
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| Timothy Gulics wrote: | Wow, these will be a great addition to Albion's existing lines...
I'm trying to determine how exactly they compare to the NG's. Obviously Albion's original intent is to make these blunt, but they do offer sharpening as well. I'm sure the blade geometry will be slightly different here, since these aren't meant to cut, but how much different really? A lot of these Squires are shaping up to be just like a NG... and at half the price.
Will the NG prices come down once the Squires are released? If not, what makes a NG that much better than a Squire? Obviously there are some lines with differences... the Squire viking looks like a NG Hersir, but the Hersir actually has a correct two-part pommel and wire whereas the Squire does not... but others do not have this level of physical differentiation. At least not from what I can tell, by looking at the blades and waxes shown here...
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Hi Timothy,
With the NG's the "sword edges" are ground in from the foundation grinding up, they are not a secondary process once the blade is completed, but are the grinding process for the most part. Even though the blades are roughed out on a machine, there is still a large amount of material (up to 3/8-1/2 lbs. in some extreme cases) to remove from that blank. This is just to put the proper edge shapes, and geometries in place. It is not simply a matter of grinding the bevels dead flat and then putting a small secondary bevel on (which itself is improper and creates a weak edge, that has no support behind it).
This heavy grinding, which is all done by hand, is necessary to create the proper character to the individual edge styles, and where a large amount of labor is.
The Squire Line blades are built to be blunts from the ground up, and do not require the same heavy grinding. These blades are also being finished to a slightly coarser grit than the NG line. This coarser finish will put the swords in a similar state of appearance to other swords in the SL price range.
The sharpening on the SL will be a semi-blended edge, similar to the way that Jody Samson sharpens his swords. They will be rolled, and blended (in grit direction) with the rest of the sword. It will be a secondary bevel, but it won't have a change in the grit direction to distract from the visuals of the sword.
How these will cut shall be determined, but they will cut at least as well, or better than most swords of similar build characteristics. But, comparing the SL line to a sword with full and proper "sword edges" would be an apples to grapes comparison (ie. further apart than apples and oranges).
Jason Dingledine
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Timothy Gulics
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Ooh. Right from the source! Thanks Jason 
The sword is my companion.
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Manny G
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| Roger Hooper wrote: | | I like that XVa a lot. The only thing that worries me is that it looks a little too pointy for safe reenactment use. |
Hey... For re-enactment use, there should be a ball on that tip. If it's just rounded, wont' you lose quite a bit of tip length?
...because the tip is narrow. (Oh wait, I meant balll-tip for martial arts class drills - for re-enactment or stage use, yeah, the tip would have to be cut off. sad.)
If I were to get that -- and I am waiting for my Castellan first -- I'd want the tip just like that pictured. It would be great for practice, but not for re-enactment, and not for sparring.
Where is my Castellan?
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Manny G
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Nice. I like blunts. Or a nice blunt. My next purchase would have been an un-sharp heavy. Proper handling, but not sharp.
Can't go wrong with the handling of those sword types in blunt form. XIIa, XVa, and Viking.
My only wish would be for correct grip thickness. But I think that's just me
I like the XIIa. Do we have blade length and grip length yet? I'd want a 9-inch or longer grip. Oh, and weight in the 3.75-lb or so range. Proper "warsword." I'd buy that. Oh, and leave the rusted furniture look - or black iron look. I like it. No bling.
Hmn, to clarify with the weight, I mean on the substantial to heavy side for an XIIa -- which on the Oakeshott typology says up to 4-lbs.
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Howard Waddell
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Geoff Wood
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Mr Waddell
Looks good. Any estimate of how much the sharpening would take off the weight?
Geoff
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Tom Wegener
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Looks awsome sir .
When one of the 17 Jappaneas survivors of Tarawa was asked if thier moral ever started to break he replied " Yes ,, when the dieing Marines kept coming and coming . "
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