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Andre Sinou
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 Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 7:00 am Post subject: Flat Ring, riveted, blackened TITANIUM Chain Mail! |
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We will be starting production of Ti chain mail shortly. All of the strength of stainless steel, the look of period maille (you could not tell the difference between steel and out Ti maille at one foot away) and the weight of aluminum.
Here is our price list. We will be adding this to our web site and will keep you all informed.
HAUBERGEON (1/2 SLEEVES)
SIZES PRICE
M 1595
L 1695
XL 1795
XXL 1895
HAUBERKS (FULL SLEEVES)
SIZES PRICE (US$)
M 1695
L 1895
XL 2095
XXL 2295
COIF - US$ 595
LEGS/CHAUSSES - LARGE SIZE - $ 1095
MEDIUM - $ 995
AVENTAIL - M - $ 495
L - $ 595
VOIDER - $ 795 PER SET
SKIRT - $ 695
STANDARD - $ 295 per pc.
Who would be interested?
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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Paul Hansen
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Is it butted or riveted?
Some pictures would also be nice.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul Hansen wrote: | Is it butted or riveted?
Some pictures would also be nice. |
The subject line of this thread/Andre's post is "Flat Ring, riveted, blackened TITANIUM Chain Mail!" so I'm guessing it's riveted. 
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Paul Hansen
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Sorry about that... Then I guess that it's one of the very few on the market.
Still, some pictures would be nice. As would ring diameters etc.
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Ben Sweet
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I have a butted 5/16id 14ga that I have been working on for years, I would love to see photos of what you will be offering, I can give mine away and pick up yours!
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David Teague
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| Paul Hansen wrote: |
Sorry about that... Then I guess that it's one of the very few on the market.
Still, some pictures would be nice. As would ring diameters etc. |
At the bottom of his post is his web site, below is a shortcut though his online catalog. Since he said it's going to look like the Blackened Flat Riveted Steel Chainmail he now carries , I'd look at those photos.
Maiile page with pics
I've been very happy with the maille I've bought from Andre aka Icefalcon Armor.
Cheers,
David
This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild
"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Andre Sinou
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| Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 6:06 am Post subject: |
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I will have some pics up soon. I do not have any stock yet but I am gettting an order together. I have only one shirt and some sample squres. We will be the ONLY place in the world you will be able to find flat ring, riveted Ti Maille at this point. You will not be able to tell the difference between this and mild steel maille by sight. Only when you lift it and find it has feather weight, will you know it is not.
I will be posting pics of the items I have and our prices so folks can order. The plan is for the first run to be delivered by late this summer.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Andre
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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Andre Sinou
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| Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Prices are posted and you may start ordering now. The delivery date for this order is likely to be in Late summer. That is what we are shooting for at least. It might be slightly longer as there have been some delays with imports. We will only be taking half down now and the other half upon shipping to you.
There is a sample pic with the category. You can see it and order items here:
http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon/flat-...086-c.html
I have some sample pics of the Ti maille next to our steel maille. I am not sure how to pot them but will email them to someone if they would like to pot them here.
Cheers!
Andre Sinou - Icefalcon Armory
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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Jonathan Blair
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One question about the rivets: round or wedge?
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - The Lord Jesus Christ, from The Gospel According to Saint Matthew, chapter x, verse 34, Authorized Version of 1611
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David Teague
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| Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Jonathan Blair wrote: | | One question about the rivets: round or wedge? |
I'm not Ice, but I do know that he uses the round rivets with his maille.
Cheers,
David
This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild
"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Andre Sinou
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| Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Jonathan Blair wrote: | | One question about the rivets: round or wedge? |
Wedge rivets are only available in mild steel. We used stainless pin rivets, so you will not have any upkeep issues. Ti rivets would have cracked.
Any reason you would have wanted wedge rivets over the pin? You cannot tell from more than a few feet away what kind they are and pin is more common in existing examples of chainmail.
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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Jonathan Blair
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| Andre Sinou wrote: | Wedge rivets are only available in mild steel. We used stainless pin rivets, so you will not have any upkeep issues. Ti rivets would have cracked.
Any reason you would have wanted wedge rivets over the pin? You cannot tell from more than a few feet away what kind they are and pin is more common in existing examples of chainmail. |
My LH group prefers wedge to round. Then again, titanium rings and stainless rivets would probably not pass muster either. Mostly curiousity led me to aks the question.
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - The Lord Jesus Christ, from The Gospel According to Saint Matthew, chapter x, verse 34, Authorized Version of 1611
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Andre Sinou
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| Posted: Wed 19 Jan, 2011 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Jonathan Blair wrote: | | Andre Sinou wrote: | Wedge rivets are only available in mild steel. We used stainless pin rivets, so you will not have any upkeep issues. Ti rivets would have cracked.
Any reason you would have wanted wedge rivets over the pin? You cannot tell from more than a few feet away what kind they are and pin is more common in existing examples of chainmail. |
My LH group prefers wedge to round. Then again, titanium rings and stainless rivets would probably not pass muster either. Mostly curiousity led me to aks the question. |
Still curious as to why they would prefer wedge. Do you know the reason?
Cheers!
Andre
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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Chuck Russell
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depends on the time frame. some later LH groups use wedge only cause the pin looks less period or is less period to them
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David Teague
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| Chuck Russell wrote: | | depends on the time frame. some later LH groups use wedge only cause the pin looks less period or is less period to them |
If I'm not mistaken, pin never went out of production and was made at the same time as wedge.
This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild
"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Chuck Russell
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right but some groups are really picky. i mean really. most of my groups have the if its riveted its fine standing due to both the pin and wedge both looked the same amount of "off" compared to an original.
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Andre Sinou
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| Posted: Fri 21 Jan, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Chuck Russell wrote: | | right but some groups are really picky. i mean really. most of my groups have the if its riveted its fine standing due to both the pin and wedge both looked the same amount of "off" compared to an original. |
It should not look too off. I was just in the museum last week looking at maille and the pin rivets look exactly the same. There were no examples of wedge at the museum so I could not tell you what they should have looked like or wether the modern versions look the same. It is hard to make pin rivets look different from one another. They are a pretty straight forward design.
Cheers!
Andre
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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Ed Toton
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| Posted: Fri 21 Jan, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Flat Ring, riveted, blackened TITANIUM Chain Mail! |
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Who would be interested? |
I'll definitely be interested. I'm just not sure when yet. This will be an expensive year.
-Ed T. Toton III
ed.toton.org | ModernChivalry.org
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Andre Sinou
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We just added hamatas to our price list.
"Pain is just weakness leaving the body"
www.icefalcon.com
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