[Simon G.]

Hello all,

I'm curious about this rather strange dussack/cutlass (feel free to bash me on the head for my loose terminology) with a heavily serrated, saw-like blade :

(Image from myArmoury's image galleries here : http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/1282.html )

I first discovered this weapon through repros, and thought, woah, that's a strange one. I wondered for a time if this was historical or not, set out for a search, and quickly found the above period original right here (this site is really, really wonderful...).

Here it is replicated and on sale on Kult of Athena, by an unidentified maker :
http://kultofathena.com/images%5C8808_4_l.jpg

And another repro, by Czech maker Armory Marek :
http://www.armorymarek.com/public/default/use.../x42sc.jpg

Both are clearly direct reproductions of the one in myArmoury's curved blades gallery... Does anyone here have additional info on this strange weapon? Or thoughts on the reason the blade has that... really unique shape?

I, for one, can't really fathom one... This goes far beyond the "waves" seen on some 16th century two-handers (and even H&Hs), whose utility is already disputed (IIRC). The size and spacing of the saw teeth seem too big to actually perform as a saw. Is it purely decorative then? An experiment gone wrong?...

Cheers,

Simon

[Simon G.]

Hello again,

I dug around a bit more and found this description in an old Wallace Collection catalogue available on Google Books :

[Nathan Robinson]

Here is the one at the Wallace Collection:

Dusägge A714

Is it the same?

[Simon G.]

Hi Nathan,

Chad Arnow, who has the Mann catalogue at hand, was kind enough to inform me that Laking's "1268" was now A714... I guess it eluded me, shame on my weak searching skills! So yes indeed, the dussack/dussäge you linked to is the one described by Laking. It also very much seems that it's the same one as that in myArmoury's gallery.

I note that now the description by the Wallace says that it was "once blued"... Anyway we're back to only one instance of this strange blade and now thanks to you and Chad's kind and efficient diligence we know what it is!

Still curious about this blade. The specs on the Wallace site contain nothing that would clearly suggest it's just a presentation piece, length and weight seem about correct (of course it's very limited as a description of a sword...).

Does anyone has thoughts about the use of these serrations?

Thanks again, Nathan & Chad! myArmoury really has a crack contributing team!

[Elling Polden]

It's for those extra evil pirates...

Alternately it might be a custom pice made for someone with a bright idea, or, as is the excuse for serrations on modern survival knifes, a optimized rope cutter.

[Johan Gemvik]

Wallace also has a similar bladed Tulwar. Could there be a connection?

Looking at it IRL the cutlass has rather blunt serrations while the Tulwar has very sharp edged teeth.
The serrations might be an attempt by the swordsmiths to make a blada capable of rending maille as it will grab indivitual rings during a slashing cut. If it works like that I have no idea, it's just a theory. But what other use can there be, for just flesh or simple cloth neither blade would need any serration to cut?

[Sean Flynt]

FWIW, Waldman's book on polearms includes artwork depicting a staff weapon with serrated blade. The thematic context is the boarding of a ship, and Waldman reckons the weapon was designed to cut rigging.

[Timo Nieminen]

[Simon G.]

I'm tempted to go with Elling's "commissioned or made by some who [thought he] had a bright idea". If we look at some books on war machines of the 16th century, there are pretty wild things, such as all manners of foldable ladders, or inflatable boots to purportedly walk on water (see attachement, from an edition of Vegetius now in the BSB, ca. 1512). Maybe it was the guy we see happily waltzing on water in that picture who commissioned this cutlass ; apparently he has a sword with a knuckle-guard at the side
(There are also pretty wild ideas in military technology far closer to us, too).

I'm a bit doubtful about this "cutting ropes" thing however. As Johan informs us (thanks for that !), the serrations are quite blunt. Plus they look to big and too curvy to me, whereas a far better arrangement to really cut rope would probably be smaller, sharper teeth, as on a real saw...

But perhaps that was the idea, and it was poorly executed...

By the way, even if we admit that the intent of the serrations on the long edge were to act like a saw, I can even less see what use the serrations on the back edge would be...

After all perhaps it was just meant as a decoration piece, or something original that a young yahoo could impress his young noble friends with...