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Victor Hansen
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 Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 6:33 am Post subject: myArmoury sword information sought |
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I am interested in two swords for sale by myArmoury, they are:
A&A Henry V - 2.6 feet
Albion Riding Sword - 2.6 feet
I think that works out to be about 80 cms, quite short swords. I cant find much information about swords if this short length but I would like to know if there is any historical basis behind these swords. If anyone can tell me about these swords, where they came from and what time period they existed/were used or about swords in general of this length that would be fantastic. Thanks.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Mon 23 Aug, 2004 8:12 am Post subject: Re: myArmoury sword information sought |
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| Victor Hansen wrote: | I am interested in two swords for sale by myArmoury, they are:
A&A Henry V - 2.6 feet
Albion Riding Sword - 2.6 feet
I think that works out to be about 80 cms, quite short swords. I cant find much information about swords if this short length but I would like to know if there is any historical basis behind these swords. If anyone can tell me about these swords, where they came from and what time period they existed/were used or about swords in general of this length that would be fantastic. Thanks. |
Victor,
Thanks for the post. To clarify, these swords are/were being sold by myArmoury members, not myArmoury itself. Swords of that length were definitely used back then. A&A's Henry V sword is based off of one found in Westminster Abbey and thought to have been the personal sword of King Henry V (who died around 1420 or so). A&A (short for Arms & Armor http://www.arms-n-armor.com) based their sword off the notes taken by Ewart Oakeshott, an author, collector, and researcher who handled that very sword. So that one for sure has historical precedent. 
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Victor Hansen
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| Posted: Tue 24 Aug, 2004 4:01 am Post subject: Re: myArmoury sword information sought |
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thanks, I really appreciate that information.
To go one step further, because the Henry V sword is obviously specially designed I dont suppose you or anyone else reading this could give me some further reference or source for other more general swords of this same length (80cms). At this point any material would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Victor.
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Kenneth Enroth
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The Henry V sword is a type XVIII. This type of sword was fairly popular according to Oakeshott. Records of the medieval sword" and "Sword in the age of chivalry" by Oakeshott has some more examples of the type.
Albion is coming out with an XVIII this fall that strongly resembles the Henry V sword. It's called the "kingmaker". http://albion-swords.com/swords/albion/nextge...-xviii.htm On this page there is more info about the function of a sword of this type.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Tue 24 Aug, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: Re: myArmoury sword information sought |
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| Victor Hansen wrote: | thanks, I really appreciate that information.
To go one step further, because the Henry V sword is obviously specially designed I dont suppose you or anyone else reading this could give me some further reference or source for other more general swords of this same length (80cms). At this point any material would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Victor. |
Books by Ewart Oakeshott are great references, especially Records of the Medieval Sword and The Sword in the Age of Chivalry. Swords of that length were not unusual. As Kenneth said, Albion (http://albion-swords.com) has some swords that length based on the research of noted Swedish swordsmith Peter Johnsson. The Kingmaker, Sovereign, Prince, and Squire (among others) are shorter in length, between 78 cm and 82 cm. These are good close-in swords that would work well with a shield.
Arms and Armors (http://www.arms-n-armor.com) has the Henry V and one or two other "shorties."
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Victor Hansen
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| Posted: Wed 25 Aug, 2004 7:57 am Post subject: Re: myArmoury sword information sought |
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| Chad Arnow wrote: |
Books by Ewart Oakeshott are great references, especially Records of the Medieval Sword and The Sword in the Age of Chivalry. Swords of that length were not unusual. As Kenneth said, Albion (http://albion-swords.com) has some swords that length based on the research of noted Swedish swordsmith Peter Johnsson. The Kingmaker, Sovereign, Prince, and Squire (among others) are shorter in length, between 78 cm and 82 cm. These are good close-in swords that would work well with a shield.
Arms and Armors (http://www.arms-n-armor.com) has the Henry V and one or two other "shorties." |
thanks for all the info so far everyone. Chad thanks for those book titles, I might see if I cant check themout through the library. 78?! I have never ever seen any reference to a medieval sword as short as 78cms. I hunted down the swords you listed and of all of the swords you mention they are actually closer to 90cms than to 80cms.
Anyway thanks for the information so far.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Wed 25 Aug, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: Re: myArmoury sword information sought |
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| Victor Hansen wrote: | thanks for all the info so far everyone. Chad thanks for those book titles, I might see if I cant check themout through the library. 78?! I have never ever seen any reference to a medieval sword as short as 78cms. I hunted down the swords you listed and of all of the swords you mention they are actually closer to 90cms than to 80cms.
Anyway thanks for the information so far. |
Victor,
Those measurements were blade-lengths. Sorry for the confusion.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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