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Nikolas D





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PostPosted: Wed 25 Aug, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: Need help for a helmet identification         Reply with quote

hello everyone here in myArmoury,

i am totally irrelevant with armors and i wanted your help for a helmet identification. I acquired from my grandfather a strange helmet that i always thought that it must be an ottoman period helmet but never searched for more information about it. Can anyone please help me with its identification? i also would like to know how i can clean the rust from it and its value. The helmet logically is from Greece, i didn't have the chance to ask my grandfather about it, he died two years ago.



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Allan Senefelder
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Aug, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Nikolas, what you have here is a 19th or early 20th century Indo - Persian khula khud helmet. This type of late khula khud was made both for the tourist trade and for use in " romance plays ". Romance plays are roughly plays telling stories of muslim heros through history.
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Sa'ar Nudel




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Aug, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The major sign of this kind of helmet is the non-operative nasal - it is riveted and its upper part is way too long. Anyway, this helmet can still be a nice show piece but it needs a lot of work.
Curator of Beit Ussishkin, regional nature & history museum, Upper Galilee.
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Nikolas D





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PostPosted: Thu 26 Aug, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you my friends for your informations, as i can understand it doesn't have much value. Can you tell me how am i going to move the rust from it?
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R D Moore




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PostPosted: Thu 26 Aug, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You could use a wire wheel chucked in a cordless drill initially to get the surface rust off (wear a mask!), then use finer grit sandpaper flap wheels to take the metal down below the corrosion as best as you can. And a belt grinder will save you a lot of time with this if you have access to one.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhi/R-...ogId=10053

http://www.suhner-abrasive-expert.com/domains...wheels.pdf

This will be a good project for you, you should have some fun with it.

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation" ...Gen. Douglas Macarthur
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Jojo Zerach





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PostPosted: Thu 26 Aug, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The easiest/cheapest way to clean/polish it would be to use relatively fine sandpaper.
WIth some time and effort, you could get it fairly shiny.
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Nikolas D





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PostPosted: Fri 27 Aug, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have no words to say, thank you all for your very useful info, i am sure i will spend a lot of time cleaning the helmet:-)
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