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Michael Edelson




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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Mounted combat video         Reply with quote

Hi all,

We recently got our hands on some mounts and decided to do some work with mounted combat. We got most of our material from Von Danzig, but also used Talhoffer and a bit of Kal.

Keep in mind that these are early interpretations and we're putting out them out there for peer review, hoping for constructive criticism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLiVI3U65HY

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

very good for early work, i would recommend a bit more work with your mounts before diving into grappling and throws while mounted. I do have to say, that looks like a lot OF FUN!
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric Fick wrote:
very good for early work, i would recommend a bit more work with your mounts before diving into grappling and throws while mounted. I do have to say, that looks like a lot OF FUN!


Thank you, Eric. You're right about the throws of course, but once mounted we couldn't help but explore the full range of techniques. It is a lot of fun.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Big grins on that one! Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can't comment on the technique, but it certainly wasn't what I was expecting Laughing Out Loud
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i'm still laughing about it. I think i'm going to try some of that myself!
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Addison C. de Lisle wrote:
I can't comment on the technique, but it certainly wasn't what I was expecting Laughing Out Loud


Technique? You saw some technique? Where? Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i think it was sarcasm (as to not spoil the fun for other viewers)
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric Fick wrote:
i think it was sarcasm (as to not spoil the fun for other viewers)


I thought that would become perfectly clear as soon as the Benny Hill music started rolling. Happy

I think most people will watch the video before reading the comments, so as long as the first comment isn't "LMAO!!!" then were' okay.

However, perhaps it would not be a bad idea to actually try some mounted combat techniques on those things. We might give it a shot in future...too much other stuff to work on now.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i would suggest sorting out the peddling. maybe a small motor? street children? those guys at home depot?

dunno, even with the peddling it looks like a blast. but where did you get adult sized tricycles? I want a BIG Wheel for christmas

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Let's just say one of them wasn't exactly adult sized. Blush

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That one made my day Happy Looks like you guys had a lot of fun with those.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow, I think you guys invented a brand new HEMA that everyone can argue about! Wait a minute! Well, I guess it isn't very historical is it? Ummmm....or particularly European, come to think of it. Martial? Well, the participants did have swords but, ....not really. Artistic? Forget about it!


It was fun though! Hysterically funny! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric Fick wrote:
i would suggest sorting out the peddling. maybe a small motor? street children? those guys at home depot?

dunno, even with the peddling it looks like a blast. but where did you get adult sized tricycles? I want a BIG Wheel for christmas


I have no idea where you would get those...they belong to the school where we train.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmmmmm: Maybe you could actually try some real techniques if you can stop laughing long enough. Wink Razz Cool

This should come with a warning sign to not handle boiling hot coffee while watching and one should at least make up a batch of microwave popcorn before starting the clip ...... Oh, choking hazard, so maybe not a great idea.

But I just can't understand why you guys have to be so " serious " about HEMA all the time. Razz Razz Razz ( That was friendly sarcasm and a joke for those few who might actually not get that I'm joking ...... and this disclaimer is also a joke. Razz ).

Michael: Made my day. Big Grin Cool

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
But I just can't understand why you guys have to be so " serious " about HEMA all the time.


Someone has to be, Jean. Most people in HEMA are just clowns who can't take themselves seriously. We hold the bar higher.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Really cracked me up, just hilarious! Scripted and choreographed in the best Benny Hill tradition.

Might I suggest prefacing your next production with a warning label? It would benefit those of us having a cup of coffee while viewing something so unexpected.

Well, have to get busy and clean up my monitor and keyboard.!

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

IMHO, it is so important to take HEMA - WMA seriously in pursuit of historical data and technique. HOWEVER, a person who can not laugh at himself has major issues that should be addressed under "professional" psychiatric conditions and maybe even find a stick removal service. In contrast, a person who cannot take anything serious, is little more than a court jester and is only good for laugh and some stress release (but fun to have a beer with!)

so anyway who wants a beer! ;P

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow. I wanna do that next. And we could do jousting as well. Woot!
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Steven H wrote:
Wow. I wanna do that next. And we could do jousting as well. Woot!


Yeah, jousting for the horsemanship " challenged ", seems like an idea. Wink Big Grin ( Only half joking ).

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