Posts: 257 Location: Overland Park KS
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 7:42 pm
milanese Bevor?
I was watching "The knights Tale" the other night and saw a knight wearing a milanese harness fitted with a bevor. From all the examples that Iv seen of
milanese armour, I haven't seen a bevor as part of that style of harness.
Is there any evidence of Italian armour being fitted with a bevor?
Attachment: 82.24 KB
[ Download ]
Posts: 4,194 Location: Northern VA,USA
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 8:24 pm
Re: milanese Bevor?
Reece Nelson wrote: |
I was watching "The knights Tale" the other night and saw a knight wearing a milanese harness fitted with a bevor. From all the examples that Iv seen of milanese armour, I haven't seen a bevor as part of that style of harness.
Is there any evidence of Italian armour being fitted with a bevor? |
It doesn't look like anything I've seen historically.
FYI, Knight's Tale is pretty atrocious in terms of historical accuracy for armour. :) I saw it once many years ago, so I can't remember specific examples, but I do recall a whole lot of mix and match of various pieces from completely different time periods and cultures.
Posts: 649 Location: Italy
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 8:49 pm
Re: milanese Bevor?
Reece Nelson wrote: |
I was watching "The knights Tale" the other night and saw a knight wearing a milanese harness fitted with a bevor. From all the examples that Iv seen of milanese armour, I haven't seen a bevor as part of that style of harness.
Is there any evidence of Italian armour being fitted with a bevor? |
Only if I have translated well, the word, "bevor":
armature Lombarda-1460 by "armor of Lombard 400" Lionello Boccia, pp. 126
Attachment: 164.08 KB

Posts: 508
Wed 22 Jul, 2009 12:53 am
What a coincidence I was watching it too! :) In fact this is only the second time I've seen it. The first time time was in the cinema when it was first released.
I have to agree with Bill. Historical accuracy was not a consideration in this film. It contains a bizarre mishmash of weapons and armour from the 15th, 16th and even 17th centuries. Furthermore this mixture is so bizarre I wonder if it is actually delibarate, a bit like the filmmakers saying this is not a documentary, it's a bit of fun. Something which is reinforced by the inclusion of modern Rock and Pop music.
Posts: 111 Location: Manhattan, Kansas
Wed 22 Jul, 2009 3:11 am
The 15th century "Milanese" style of armour was not a single, monolithic design aesthetic. It included many variations.
The sallet-and-bevor combination that we usually associate with German armours was sometimes seen being worn with harness of otherwise north Italian style.
There exist plenty of examples of this in contemporary artwork:
http://www.gotscha.nl/joris.jpg
A reproduction of the harness from the painting:
http://www.gotscha.nl/nw.schaf13.kl.JPG
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/3745115717_5a35043d3e_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2591/3745115777_e1ce22c432_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/3745911672_95a7a4d3a0_o.jpg
Posts: 936 Location: WV
Wed 22 Jul, 2009 1:01 pm
see he's wearing an open faced barbuta with a bevor under it isn't he? I've seen bevors with sallets and kettle helms but not with a barbuta. kinda looks cool though
Posts: 2,698 Location: Indonesia
Wed 05 Aug, 2009 12:04 am
Hisham Gaballa wrote: |
It contains a bizarre mishmash of weapons and armour from the 15th, 16th and even 17th centuries. |
Heh. The costume mishmash goes even further--notice some distinctly 20th-century features in the main characters' clothes, and compare to the Anglo-Saxon outfits (down to the accurate cut of tunic and winingas!) worn by some of the arena spectators.
I only wish they had taken the anachronism a bit further so that it'd look even more deliberate (and less like research mistakes).
You
cannot post new topics in this forum
You
cannot reply to topics in this forum
You
cannot edit your posts in this forum
You
cannot delete your posts in this forum
You
cannot vote in polls in this forum
You
cannot attach files in this forum
You
can download files in this forum