| Hendrik De Coster wrote: | ||||
if you deliver the armour i'll deliver the people;) |
Now that's the condotierro spirit! ;)
Now that's the condotierro spirit! ;)
| Felix R. wrote: |
| My Italian Militia Kit under development. Tried the haubergeon today and it still needs considerable modification. Gores were set unter the arms, but I have to get the armholes higher and closer toe the torso to not lift the maille when lifting my arms. I also plan to open the haubergeon on the back and tailor it more closely in the chest/waist area. |
Wel,l you know best of course, but it looks like it fits you pretty darn well from here.
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startings of my 1275-1299 kit. need to make the surcoat and finish up the mail mittens n mail greaves
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startings of my 1275-1299 kit. need to make the surcoat and finish up the mail mittens n mail greaves
This is incredible, man. One of the coolest and most intimidating looking helmet designs I've ever seen. Much sharper than the typical falling buffe visor on a burgonet like that one. It reminds me of the classic helmet of a Roman gladiator.
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How about some 'moving pictures' showing some period style 13thC Harness being used in a period style.
Solid timber lances with steel coronels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFWpgNAOAmI
Solid timber lances with steel coronels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFWpgNAOAmI
rod man, your kit is awesome.
| Rod Walker wrote: |
| How about some 'moving pictures' showing some period style 13thC Harness being used in a period style.
Solid timber lances with steel coronels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFWpgNAOAmI |
I totally agree when you said 'this is so cool!'
| Rod Walker wrote: |
| How about some 'moving pictures' showing some period style 13thC Harness being used in a period style.
Solid timber lances with steel coronels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFWpgNAOAmI |
The two helms are probably a good 80+ years apart, but man, that's really cool. It looked great! I'm envious. :)
| Ed Toton wrote: | ||
The two helms are probably a good 80+ years apart |
Looked more like 4 feet to me. ;)
Fun stuff
| Ed Toton wrote: | ||
The two helms are probably a good 80+ years apart, but man, that's really cool. It looked great! I'm envious. :) |
Yes but for the purposes of jousting it doesn't really matter if the kit is some years apart as long as it doesn't mix maille/great helm armour with fighting someone in much later plate.
Maybe just camera angle but it looks to me like they meet/strike at a wide angle rather than much closer to a head on collision, this i assume in part is to have glancing blows and to keep the shock safe and manageable: After all they are not trying to kill each other or risk dislocating their shoulders in a hard impact ? Also it looks like they only aim there lances at the other when almost on each other and keeping their lances vertical for most of the charge ? Oh, not a criticism, just questions about the action.
We are running without a centre tilt so the angles tend to change on each pass as we attempt to get the best angles for our strike.
No glancing blows. Once that steel coronel hits a shield it really, really bites into the wood.
We hold the lances vertical as this is the easiest way to carry them on the move. If you drop onto target too early the lance can tend to flog up and down and this is bad technique.
Holding them vertical and lowering onto target whilst on the move is a period technique.
No glancing blows. Once that steel coronel hits a shield it really, really bites into the wood.
We hold the lances vertical as this is the easiest way to carry them on the move. If you drop onto target too early the lance can tend to flog up and down and this is bad technique.
Holding them vertical and lowering onto target whilst on the move is a period technique.
| Rod Walker wrote: |
| We are running without a centre tilt so the angles tend to change on each pass as we attempt to get the best angles for our strike.
No glancing blows. Once that steel coronel hits a shield it really, really bites into the wood. We hold the lances vertical as this is the easiest way to carry them on the move. If you drop onto target too early the lance can tend to flog up and down and this is bad technique. Holding them vertical and lowering onto target whilst on the move is a period technique. |
Thanks for the clarification: Didn't know about the proper technique. :cool:
Camera angles and lens type can fool one in underestimating or overestimating the distances and the actual angles of contact: A second camera at 90 or 180 degrees from the one actually used might give a completely different impression.
Steel coronel ! I guess you wouldn't want it to miss the shield and hit you on the chest if only protected by maille and a gambison ( A coat of plates might help though ). Again, a question about jousting in mostly maille armour I don't know the answer to. ;) :D Just looking for more details about how protective the 13th century armour is, and how it affects what you can do safely ( Or at least not stupidly dangerous, as I doubt that this can be 100% safe but not more dangerous than many other extreme sports if one know what one is doing using the right equipment ).
My attempt at a 15th Century kit, a work in progress with much of the "civilian" clothing is still unfinished (like proper joined hose) and the military kit also needs a few additons and improvements.
Very Nice Daniel!
Is that an Albion Acincourt you have in your hands? Looking like it´s going to be an exellent kit as soon as you get it really campained...
Is that an Albion Acincourt you have in your hands? Looking like it´s going to be an exellent kit as soon as you get it really campained...
| Martin Wallgren wrote: |
| Very Nice Daniel!
Is that an Albion Acincourt you have in your hands? Looking like it´s going to be an exellent kit as soon as you get it really campained... |
Thanks Martin, yes it is Albion's Agincourt, I expect that a week or two outdoors in the rainy Swedish summer will provide a start for a proper "used" look for the kit.
Had to say ... I love this kit; my favourite in this collection! This is how I think of a Knight looking.
Best, Whitey.
Best, Whitey.
| S White wrote: |
| Had to say ... I love this kit; my favourite in this collection! This is how I think of a Knight looking.
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I must agree, I particularly like Brian's kit as well. :)
| S White wrote: |
| Had to say ... I love this kit; my favourite in this collection! This is how I think of a Knight looking.
Best, Whitey. |
Thank you Ed and Thank you very much Whitey! That is truly quite a compliment considering the fantastic
harnesses posted in this thread!
Here is a picture of my updated harness...the update being the new spaulders, splinted cuisses and poleyns.
Daniel: You have a great start on your 15th c. kit. :D
That's exactly what I'd like to put together. Where did you get the jack? Is that the Get Dressed For Battle breast?
That's exactly what I'd like to put together. Where did you get the jack? Is that the Get Dressed For Battle breast?
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My kit with my new rondels on my shoulders and my lovely new chapelle de fer + high bevor!
Next step: Paint the helmet!
My kit with my new rondels on my shoulders and my lovely new chapelle de fer + high bevor!
Next step: Paint the helmet!
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