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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: a sword for my mother in law         Reply with quote

Hi all! im currently drawing a full size model of a sword for my mother in law and i want to see how good it would be.
here's the measuments of the sword:

total lenght : approx. 43 inch

blade measuments and style : 33 inch long 2 inch wide comparable to the black knight of DSA in shape

pommel : J1 style of oakeshott

guard : type 11 oakeshott

handle lenght : 7 ŕ 7 ˝ inch

leather color : light brown
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Nat Lamb




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

When you sy "for", do you mean "to be used by" or "to be used on" Wink
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

it's not a nice thing to say!!! But i know its a joke so... Laughing Out Loud its a sword she'll use to learn swordmanship
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Jean-Carle Hudon




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: for the old battle-ax         Reply with quote

Nat,
I had exactly the same reaction.... but happily Etienne is not intending on going postal with the mother in law... at least not until she is able to defend herself properly... is that what you mean Etienne?

Bon coeur et bon bras
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Colt Reeves





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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What I'm trying to figure out is the point of the topic... I'm guessing what Etienne is asking is how such a sword would handle if it were real and not just a drawing, but maybe I'm just plain confused. Is the whole point to make a custom sword based on the drawing?
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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Colt Reeves wrote:
What I'm trying to figure out is the point of the topic... I'm guessing what Etienne is asking is how such a sword would handle if it were real and not just a drawing, but maybe I'm just plain confused. Is the whole point to make a custom sword based on the drawing?


Well Étienne likes to design stuff and may eventually end up being one of our makers in a few years. Wink Big Grin

At the same time it would be good to decide if it's going to be mostly a display piece, a sharp or a training sword and if a training sword one for solo training or for training with someone else: Safety versus making a real sword being my point.

Weight should be below 4 lbs or closer to 3 lbs, again for ease in handling for training and again safety as even a blunt can be dangerous if it's very heavy.

You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!


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Stirling Matheson





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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A sword of that description could handle drastically differently depending on the exact taper, thickness, harmony, and etc. You would be better off talking to whoever is going to make this about how you want it to handle, given the blade, hilt, and pommel types that you like.
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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh, for serious training I think the money and time would be better spent on a " Tinker " training longsword:
http://www.kultofathena.com/product~item~SH23...gsword.htm

I have an Albion Liechtenauer and I'm very happy with it but the " Tinker " longsword is much less expensive and the one used by a friend of mine is holding up well against my Albion.

Now, I don't want to pour cold water on your enthusiasm and creativity but maybe you could still make this one you are planning as a sharp or collection piece ?

You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Tue 21 Apr, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I know what your talking about jean but it is a request from her... it's not my sword after all and i expect a price of maximum 350$canadian plus the taxes of course Laughing Out Loud but none the less a tinker would be a nice choice too!

it is more for training than displaying.

And colt the point of this topic is how good it would be in hypothesis for the esthetic and practical side.

Stirling: im waiting after the mail of the smith for the price and im going to meet him after that.
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry if it took so long too put the picture i've just figured out how to convert bitmap to jpeg Laughing Out Loud

so here it is the drawing for my mother in law!



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Carl W.




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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Etienne - Drawing nice, though I am not any expert on swords. But, umm, not sure how smart it is to arm one's mother in law :-) Are you sure you know her reason for wanting to train? :-)
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

With all the sword that she owns one more sword or not it doesnt matter Wink

no seriously, she and i get along pretty well there is no animosity between us so why teasing her Laughing Out Loud
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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Etienne Hamel wrote:
Sorry if it took so long too put the picture i've just figured out how to convert bitmap to jpeg Laughing Out Loud

so here it is the drawing for my mother in law!


The design looks good to me for a sharp but for a blunt I would round the point a bit more and make the fuller wide and deep but have rounded but wide 3 mm or more edges for safe sparring with a partner.

If only solo training then the sword could be just unsharpened with a 1mm to 1.5mm edge.

Solo training and test cutting can also be done with a fully sharp sword if one is experienced and always respectful about the use of a sharp edge. ( Aware of one's surroundings at all times and not overconfident and careless ).

Considering your interests having a mother in law who has and appreciates swords is a big plus. Cool

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Artis Aboltins




PostPosted: Thu 30 Apr, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Etienne Hamel wrote:
With all the sword that she owns one more sword or not it doesnt matter Wink

no seriously, she and i get along pretty well there is no animosity between us so why teasing her Laughing Out Loud


I suppose it is just because of the huge amount of jokes regarding usual relationship between mother in law and her daughters husband Happy

Otherwise, as Jean said - for a training sword a bit more rounded tip would be a good idea.
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Tue 12 May, 2009 6:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i wanted to say that the overall cost for this project is 325$can (very cheap price for a good sword) and will be made by darksword armory. how much time do we have to wait for custom order from them?
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Gary Teuscher





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PostPosted: Tue 12 May, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'd say get one that is very sharp and cuts cleanly. That will put her through less pain and be less likely to anger your wife

Sorry, could not resist Big Grin .
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PostPosted: Tue 12 May, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Etienne Hamel wrote:
i wanted to say that the overall cost for this project is 325$can (very cheap price for a good sword) and will be made by darksword armory. how much time do we have to wait for custom order from them?


Why don't you ask Darksword? That seems to be the most logical course of action...

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Maurizio D'Angelo




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PostPosted: Tue 12 May, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

hi, all
Explain, please, in other words: Darksword. Word not included in any dictionary.

Eek!
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Tue 12 May, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Darksword armory: http://www.darksword-armory.com/swords.html
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Etienne Hamel




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PostPosted: Wed 20 May, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i forgot to say something... the blade will be more like the gothic sword and finally it will take approximately six months to recieve the sword (hand forged from scratch not that long i think).
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