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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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 Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: a sword for my mother in law |
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Hi all! im currently drawing a full size model of a sword for my mother in law and i want to see how good it would be.
here's the measuments of the sword:
total lenght : approx. 43 inch
blade measuments and style : 33 inch long 2 inch wide comparable to the black knight of DSA in shape
pommel : J1 style of oakeshott
guard : type 11 oakeshott
handle lenght : 7 ŕ 7 ˝ inch
leather color : light brown
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Nat Lamb
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| Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: |
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When you sy "for", do you mean "to be used by" or "to be used on" ;)
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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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it's not a nice thing to say!!! But i know its a joke so... :lol: its a sword she'll use to learn swordmanship
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Jean-Carle Hudon
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| Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: for the old battle-ax |
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Nat,
I had exactly the same reaction.... but happily Etienne is not intending on going postal with the mother in law... at least not until she is able to defend herself properly... is that what you mean Etienne?
Bon coeur et bon bras
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Colt Reeves
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What I'm trying to figure out is the point of the topic... I'm guessing what Etienne is asking is how such a sword would handle if it were real and not just a drawing, but maybe I'm just plain confused. Is the whole point to make a custom sword based on the drawing?
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Colt Reeves wrote: | | What I'm trying to figure out is the point of the topic... I'm guessing what Etienne is asking is how such a sword would handle if it were real and not just a drawing, but maybe I'm just plain confused. Is the whole point to make a custom sword based on the drawing? |
Well Étienne likes to design stuff and may eventually end up being one of our makers in a few years. ;) :D
At the same time it would be good to decide if it's going to be mostly a display piece, a sharp or a training sword and if a training sword one for solo training or for training with someone else: Safety versus making a real sword being my point.
Weight should be below 4 lbs or closer to 3 lbs, again for ease in handling for training and again safety as even a blunt can be dangerous if it's very heavy.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
Last edited by Jean Thibodeau on Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:11 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Stirling Matheson
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| Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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A sword of that description could handle drastically differently depending on the exact taper, thickness, harmony, and etc. You would be better off talking to whoever is going to make this about how you want it to handle, given the blade, hilt, and pommel types that you like.
Fac et Spera
Moderator - www.swordwiki.org
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Mon 20 Apr, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, for serious training I think the money and time would be better spent on a " Tinker " training longsword:
http://www.kultofathena.com/product~item~SH23...gsword.htm
I have an Albion Liechtenauer and I'm very happy with it but the " Tinker " longsword is much less expensive and the one used by a friend of mine is holding up well against my Albion.
Now, I don't want to pour cold water on your enthusiasm and creativity but maybe you could still make this one you are planning as a sharp or collection piece ?
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Tue 21 Apr, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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I know what your talking about jean but it is a request from her... it's not my sword after all and i expect a price of maximum 350$canadian plus the taxes of course :lol: but none the less a tinker would be a nice choice too!
it is more for training than displaying.
And colt the point of this topic is how good it would be in hypothesis for the esthetic and practical side.
Stirling: im waiting after the mail of the smith for the price and im going to meet him after that.
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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Tue 28 Apr, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Sorry if it took so long too put the picture i've just figured out how to convert bitmap to jpeg :lol:
so here it is the drawing for my mother in law!
 Attachment: 63.62 KB
[ Download ]
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Carl W.
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| Posted: Wed 29 Apr, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Etienne - Drawing nice, though I am not any expert on swords. But, umm, not sure how smart it is to arm one's mother in law :-) Are you sure you know her reason for wanting to train? :-)
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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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With all the sword that she owns one more sword or not it doesnt matter ;)
no seriously, she and i get along pretty well there is no animosity between us so why teasing her :lol:
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Wed 29 Apr, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Etienne Hamel wrote: | Sorry if it took so long too put the picture i've just figured out how to convert bitmap to jpeg :lol:
so here it is the drawing for my mother in law! |
The design looks good to me for a sharp but for a blunt I would round the point a bit more and make the fuller wide and deep but have rounded but wide 3 mm or more edges for safe sparring with a partner.
If only solo training then the sword could be just unsharpened with a 1mm to 1.5mm edge.
Solo training and test cutting can also be done with a fully sharp sword if one is experienced and always respectful about the use of a sharp edge. ( Aware of one's surroundings at all times and not overconfident and careless ).
Considering your interests having a mother in law who has and appreciates swords is a big plus. :cool:
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Artis Aboltins
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| Etienne Hamel wrote: | With all the sword that she owns one more sword or not it doesnt matter ;)
no seriously, she and i get along pretty well there is no animosity between us so why teasing her :lol: |
I suppose it is just because of the huge amount of jokes regarding usual relationship between mother in law and her daughters husband :)
Otherwise, as Jean said - for a training sword a bit more rounded tip would be a good idea.
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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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i wanted to say that the overall cost for this project is 325$can (very cheap price for a good sword) and will be made by darksword armory. how much time do we have to wait for custom order from them?
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Gary Teuscher
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| Posted: Tue 12 May, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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I'd say get one that is very sharp and cuts cleanly. That will put her through less pain and be less likely to anger your wife
Sorry, could not resist :D .
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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| Etienne Hamel wrote: | | i wanted to say that the overall cost for this project is 325$can (very cheap price for a good sword) and will be made by darksword armory. how much time do we have to wait for custom order from them? |
Why don't you ask Darksword? That seems to be the most logical course of action...
:)
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Maurizio D'Angelo
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hi, all
Explain, please, in other words: Darksword. Word not included in any dictionary.
:eek:
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Luka Borscak
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Etienne Hamel
Location: Granby (QC) canada Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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i forgot to say something... the blade will be more like the gothic sword and finally it will take approximately six months to recieve the sword (hand forged from scratch not that long i think).
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This is a standard topic