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Mick J




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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: cutlass         Reply with quote

greetings..can i get some help to identify cutlass please... i'm lost

Mick J



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Dan Dickinson
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, I'm afraid i'm not knowledgeable enough to speak to its authenticity or not, but it appears to be a Confederate version of the 1860 US naval cutlass.
Hope this helps,
Dan
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Mick J




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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: cutlass         Reply with quote

there are no no. only a stamp macon arsenal..seems strange...


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Dan Dickinson
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, I do believe the Macon arsenal was a fairly large military manufacturing center for the South in the American Civil war, so that would seem to back up the Confederate association.
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Mick J




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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: cutlass         Reply with quote

ok..thanks dan...an ames copy?........

Mick
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J. Scott Moore





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PostPosted: Mon 16 Mar, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

definitely a southern version of the 1860 model cutlass. you can tell by the anchor. to the best of my knowledge the USN never used that style of anchor to mark it's equipment, or uniforms, aside from that, it is definitely an 1860 model cutlass. sorry I can't do more than support what you've already been told.
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J. Scott Moore





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PostPosted: Mon 16 Mar, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I stand corrected about the anchor. I can also say that it definitely isn't an ames pattern. the basket is too full for it. I do, however, still agree that it is a confederate blade. I just did a search on google, and disvovered that a button for a uniform had the letters CSN arranged around an anchor in similar fashion. I can only guess what they stand for, but I think that it stands for Confederate States Navy. maybe. I may be wrong, I thought that they had a different name for themselves. anyway, definitely a CSN cutlass, and DEFINITELY 1860 model
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Jonathan Hopkins




PostPosted: Mon 16 Mar, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I recommend contacting a specialist dealer or collector. Confederate arms are widely faked, and there are very convincing fakes out there on the market.

Best of luck,
Jonathan
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Mar, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's almost certainly an artificially-aged reproduction, with spurious marks.
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Mick J




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PostPosted: Mon 16 Mar, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: cutlass         Reply with quote

this is my problem,when i started to do the study on the sword...on my mind yes it;s a copy...but after studying quite a few modern swords.i found that this one always had a difference..first the rivits are bigger and fewer on the handguard than aftermarket models,and second..the hand guard is a lot thicker ...
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Gerald C Roxbury





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PostPosted: Thu 19 Mar, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: CSN Cutlass         Reply with quote

Mick,

I'm new to the forum. I came across your post on the cutlass after a google search. I collect Confederate naval cutlasses. The example you show if a fake and a fantasy piece. It is a reproduction 1861 model of the type made in India or Pakistan (high dome on the pommel) , aged over and false marking added. These fakes are well known by collectors and often show up on ebay.
Hope this helps.

Jerry
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Jeff Posey





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PostPosted: Thu 19 Mar, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Cutlass         Reply with quote

The cutlass is a modern reproduction made to look old and the markings were also added. I have seen other examples of this very same item. Jeff
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