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Einar Drønnesund
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 Posted: Sat 05 Jun, 2004 1:12 pm Post subject: Albion NextGen weights? |
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Some of the weights on the Albion NextGen swords have to be wrong. Like the Regent which is listed as: "3 lbs 8 oz (1.25 kilos)". Which is it? 3 lbs 8oz is closer to 1,6kg as far as I can calculate.
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Howard Waddell
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Location: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Mon 07 Jun, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Albion NextGen weights? |
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| Einar Drønnesund wrote: | | Some of the weights on the Albion NextGen swords have to be wrong. Like the Regent which is listed as: "3 lbs 8 oz (1.25 kilos)". Which is it? 3 lbs 8oz is closer to 1,6kg as far as I can calculate. |
My fault -- it is 1.59 kilos... I am going to go through and correct them. Please feel free to list the ones you see in error just in case I miss any.
Thanks for the head's up!
Best,
Howy
Albion Swords Ltd
http://albion-swords.com
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Markus Haider
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Yes, >1,5kg is the correct number (I weighted mine with 1520 g).
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Howard Waddell
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| Markus Haider wrote: | | Yes, >1,5kg is the correct number (I weighted mine with 1520 g). |
I am afraid. like most Americans, the metric system is still somewhat of a foreign language for me -- but I am learning, slowly. Feel free to point out my errors -- I'll never learn otherwise!
Best,
Howy
Albion Swords Ltd
http://albion-swords.com
http://filmswords.com
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Roger Hooper
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Nathan Bell
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| Posted: Tue 08 Jun, 2004 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Albion NextGen weights? |
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| Einar Drønnesund wrote: | | Some of the weights on the Albion NextGen swords have to be wrong. Like the Regent which is listed as: "3 lbs 8 oz (1.25 kilos)". Which is it? 3 lbs 8oz is closer to 1,6kg as far as I can calculate. |
Having handled the Regent, I have to say that regardless of actual weight, it feels as if it weighs far less than either 1.6 kg. or 1.25 kg.
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Erik F
Location: Sweden! Joined: 08 May 2004
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Hello im thinking of buying a Albion sword but i wonder if the next generation swords are peened or are they threaded and peened as the first generation swords?
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Roger Hooper
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| Erik F wrote: | | Hello im thinking of buying a Albion sword but i wonder if the next generation swords are peened or are they threaded and peened as the first generation swords? |
The Next Gen swords are hot peened. This article will give you the details - http://www.albionarmorers.com/functional.htm
I don't think the First Gen swords were constructed this way in the past, but they are hot peening them now.
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Erik F
Location: Sweden! Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Roger Hooper wrote: | | Erik F wrote: | | Hello im thinking of buying a Albion sword but i wonder if the next generation swords are peened or are they threaded and peened as the first generation swords? |
The Next Gen swords are hot peened. This article will give you the details - http://www.albionarmorers.com/functional.htm
I don't think the First Gen swords were constructed this way in the past, but they are hot peening them now. |
Ok, but looking at this picture of a sword here I cannot see that it has been peened: http://www.albionarmorers.com/images/swords/a...embly2.jpg
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Bill Grandy
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From Albion's website:
| Quote: | | ...the end of the tang that shows at the top of the pommel is heated and then gently hammered and expanded (often into a recess in the top of the pommel) to form the "peen block," which is then either blended and polished into invisibility or filed and shaped depending on the demands of the period. |
So it is peened, you just can't see it because it's been polished.
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Howard Waddell
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| Posted: Fri 11 Jun, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Erik F wrote: | | Roger Hooper wrote: | | Erik F wrote: | | Hello im thinking of buying a Albion sword but i wonder if the next generation swords are peened or are they threaded and peened as the first generation swords? |
The Next Gen swords are hot peened. This article will give you the details - http://www.albionarmorers.com/functional.htm
I don't think the First Gen swords were constructed this way in the past, but they are hot peening them now. |
Ok, but looking at this picture of a sword here I cannot see that it has been peened: http://www.albionarmorers.com/images/swords/a...embly2.jpg |
Yes it is peened and blended into as invisible an effect as we can (considering you are blending too different alloys of steel). If you look at this photo as well, you can see that it would be impossible to screw the pommel on to the tang -- the wide shoulders of the tang go way up into the pommel in a matching rectangular space.
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