Here's a closed burgonet with a funky visor from the Landzeughaus, Graz. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

The folded down occularia is odd, and there and two sets.

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I don't think his oppents were very scared while looking at his helmet lol but seriously thats odd/cool

hm.. what were the top slits for? ventilation?

Much in common with the " Death-Head " helms of the mid 17 Th. Century: Very crude in general but this one seems to have been made by someone with low skills and zero aesthetic sense for a very cheap munitions type armour !?

An original visor or a 19 Th. Century replacement visor !? Don't really know how probable this is but it does seem to be a low point in the armourer's art if truly period. :eek:

Personally I like the aesthetics on this helm a lot more than many other burgonets. The helm has this child-like serial killer type look combined with a feeling that the guy who would have worn it cared more about cold functionality/killing you than about trying to look pretty on the battlefield :D The crudeness of the piece only adds to the overall creepiness of it but I would have to agree with Jean that it appears to be some type of munitions grade savoyard style burgonet. Is there any date for the piece?

When new, the sun might have reflected directly into the wearer's eyes from those metal flaps underneath, if they had been above the eyes, it might have been better

I would say it looks like if the upper slits were somewhat a first try which were placed too high. And then the maker corrected this by putting another set of eyeslits below. Seems it was makeshift repair done by a smith who is more used to make horsehoes than armour parts.

I'm not sure those slits were a first attempt. Look at the cut out - on the ouside it is very straight and angular with sharp corners, yet the steel flap is rounded. Wouldn't this mean that some care had to be given to them in order to remove steel for this?

This visor brings thoughts of a "battlefield" repair to my mind, too. The plate being shaped and fit to the helm, the rounded corners on the inside of the top slits show some skill. It just looks like a job completed in the shortest amount of time to me.

Reminds me of a Cyberman from Dr. Who! :D

Whoa, funky is indeed the perfect word for this.

I tend to agree with the thought of this being a quick replacement for the broken original, as what is seen from the rest of the armor looks decent. The dents in the top of the helmet would also suggest that it have seen some action.

This Helm was discussed on ArmorArchive a while back. You might look up that thread.

I think the funniest thing I saw was the statement....

"How did that SCA helm get in a museum !" ;)

looks like it didn't got finished....my 2 cent...

L.

Sirs-I agree-it looks like a quick and dirty battlefield replacement. I ca just hear the owner of the armour "!@$%^ Varlet! Wait 'till I get you home! :D

can't this be a modern (18-19-20th century) damage? I have see a similar (if inverted) damage done to manuscript of the 1300 from a noob who thinked that the holes (from the vellum of the lamb, witness of the true origin of the manuscript) were to be repaired with tape...

I can accept the functionality of the ocular, to use in battle a joust helm, but why the mouth? A hole like this is an invite: "please, punch an arrow/stiletto/lance through my teeth!". If you have to breath some small holes in the sides are better.

And if this is theatrical modify? Someone thinked to use an old armor in some play, but evidentely you couldn't act behind a complete helm and hope to be heared by the spectators...