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Patryk Nieczarowski
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 Posted: Thu 15 Jan, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: Roman parade mask from Kalkriese (Germany) |
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Hello
In my introduction I wrote about my favorite subject for working - masked helmet ....closer ,face masked helmets.
I wish to show my last work about this subject. It's one of roman parade masks in the type of Kalkriese ...this one is exactly Kalkriese mask .
This mask is made by mixed technique ,because I used modern way (the nose is welded to the face) but also old tachnique ( some parts of the face are raised by hot way and most of the work it's hand repousse work by cold and hot way ). The technology it was the wish the customer.Maybe soon I'll make this mask by raising way similar to this  :
http://photofile.name/users/nieczar/3575763/
In this moment it's my first roman parade mask ...but I hope not the last one 
More pictures of this in my gallery (link below)
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http://www.artmajeur.com/en/artist/nieczar/collections
http://www.facebook.com/nieczar
http://www.nieczar.com
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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JE Sarge
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| Posted: Thu 15 Jan, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: |
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Now that is an amazing replication of an original!
I congratulate you on completion of this beautiful (and rarely done) work of armor!
J.E. Sarge
Crusader Monk Sword Scabbards and Customizations
www.crusadermonk.com
"But lack of documentation, especially for such early times, is not to be considered as evidence of non-existance." - Ewart Oakeshott
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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Gabriele A. Pini
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A very good job!
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Scott Kowalski
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Very nicely done Patryk! That is some truly awesome work. How long diit take to create the mask?
Scott
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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| Posted: Fri 16 Jan, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Patryk Nieczarowski wrote: | Thank You very much everyone
In fact real artist was the craftsman who made oryginal Kalkriese mask ...I made just the copy of this ...I'm not creator but re-creator only  |
I understand completely, making reproductions myself. But copying someone elses work has it's own challenges: for the creater of the original it didn't have to turn out exactly like another When I make a reproduction, I strive to make it of the same typology, at best as if I'd commision the original maker to make another. But I never intend to make the exact artifact.
Jeroen Zuiderwijk
- Bronze age living history in the Netherlands
- Barbarian metalworking
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- Zip-file with information about saxes
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Fri 16 Jan, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: | | Patryk Nieczarowski wrote: | Thank You very much everyone
In fact real artist was the craftsman who made oryginal Kalkriese mask ...I made just the copy of this ...I'm not creator but re-creator only |
I understand completely, making reproductions myself. But copying someone elses work has it's own challenges: for the creater of the original it didn't have to turn out exactly like another When I make a reproduction, I strive to make it of the same typology, at best as if I'd commision the original maker to make another. But I never intend to make the exact artifact. |
Yes great work as it is very difficult to just draw a resemblance and matching one in steel is much harder as was said previously: One can compare it to walking in heavy and deep snow, it's hard to do but walking exactly in someone else's steps is a different and harder challenge. 
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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| Posted: Sat 17 Jan, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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beauty metaphor ,thanx
and thanx everyone for such good words
I 've no problems with drowing enything ,because I'm after Academy of Art ...and drawing of face- portrait and all human body was basic thing there
sheet metal it's hard material for working but in my opinion there's no matter what material is used - good sculptor cans work in all kind of material ....there's no matter it's the clay, the stone, the wood or metal ...it's just the medium - idea is in the head ...the rest it's just the practice and the tools
I'm still very fresh craftsmen as armorer ...so there's long,long way ahead me to be really good ...I hope it's possible ...I wish that
http://www.artmajeur.com/en/artist/nieczar/collections
http://www.facebook.com/nieczar
http://www.nieczar.com
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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| Posted: Wed 20 May, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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hello
Few days ago I finished my new mask made by oryginal from Kalkriese. This one is smaller than first one (15x17 cm) and it's ready to use with the helmet - I made the hinge ...it's my version of the hinge ,the soloution similar to others exemples form many masks ...however as independent element rivated to the mask - not continuation of the mask's part.
In my opinion some holes over eye-bows are used for attaching somthing other than hinge construction (maybe some decorate) ... so I dont made it in my reconstruction.
For customer's wish I made steel rands not brass.
Off course some little details I changed by my way (this is MY Kalkriese mask ) ....but I think it doesn't destroy whole expresion of the mask
I hope it's better than my first one Kalkriese mask ...
Pictures of new mask are able in my Photofile gallery .
http://photofile.name/users/nieczar/3675439/
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David Huggins
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Very nice work Patryk and best wishes for your future projects.
Dave
and he who stands and sheds blood with us, shall be as a brother.
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Very nice work and excelent attention to the detail!
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Andreas N.
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Will you cover it, with a silver plate, like the original?
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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| Posted: Thu 21 May, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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thanx a lot guys ....I tryed to make good work...now when I made the mask I see I could change some details  ....but maybe in next realisation of this mask I'll do this
Andreas, I wish do it ...but only by customer's wish ...and he wished steel version of the mask because the price .....steel maske covered by silver plate it's like 2 masks in one ....and covering by one piece silver plate this kind of the shape (human face) is even more difficould process than forging the mask in steel only ....and the price of the silver is also not low ....so the price of whole product 'll be really high ...even if the steel mask 'll be welded not raised in one piece
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Andreas N.
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I’m not sure but I think I remember that the thickness of the Silver was about 0,2mm. Can this not easily by pressed in shape?
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Patryk Nieczarowski
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| Posted: Sat 23 May, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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try to do it ...and You'll see
it's easy if we use many fragments of silver plate ...but it's quite differend case if we use one piece of the silver plate ....and we don't cover some simple spherical form but very inregular shape
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This is a standard topic
