Equestrian Statue Prague -- myArmoury.com

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Wed 12 Mar, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: Equestrian Statue Prague

Hi, does anyone know where there is discussion of ;The equestrian statue of St George by George and Martin of Cluj of 1373, the armour and detailed photos?
and any similar armour?

east european / central european transition armour

Best regards

Vaclav Homan · Posted: Thu 13 Mar, 2008 7:35 am Post subject:

I have details of sv. Jiri (St. George) from Prague Castel in books. There is some photos http://www.pribeh-hradu.cz/index.php?sec=11&kat=9.
Similar temporary armours are in Verdun dome and two statue in Bamberg.

Jany Kobr · Posted: Fri 14 Mar, 2008 9:59 am Post subject:

http://www.svjiri.wz.cz/

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Fri 14 Mar, 2008 10:24 am Post subject:

Thanks Jany, absolutely fantastic photos!
Now is it plate or is it leather covered plate?
And thanyou also Vaclav.
These really are brilliant pics!

Vaclav Homan · Posted: Fri 14 Mar, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject:

That is question leather or iron but in this case it is iron lamellaes and shaped plates.
This statue is from Wisby time. In this time was more constructions of waistcoats. Cluj and Siebenburgen was Ungarn-German region with connections on Germania.

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Fri 14 Mar, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject:

Hi, I think this is an in between coat of plates-brigandine, also notice on the breastplate there look to be 2 broken loops that would posibly have had chains for helmet and sword?

Vaclav Homan · Posted: Sat 15 Mar, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject:

Your are right there are two rings for chain one for sword but one for dagger. You can see this system England too. St. Peter Church in Sandwich.

Henrik Zoltan Toth · Posted: Sat 15 Mar, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

Hello

To be correct: The statue was made by the Kolozsvári brothers (not "of Cluj" Big Grin

), Márton and György. The saint and his horse are "wearing" hungarian noble style armour and harness from the second half of the 14th Century.
Such a brestplate was shown somewhere here in an other topic, and one from the early 15th Century was part of the exhibition about king (Emperor) Sigismund and his era in the National Museum in Budapest two years ago.

Zoltán

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Sat 15 Mar, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject:

Hi Zoltan, I would like to see the pieces you mentioned? any links?

Henrik Zoltan Toth · Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:29 am Post subject:

hello

I have no any photo of the curass from the hungarian museum (wasn't allowed to make some), but it looked almost the same, witk silvered bottoms or pins and with an old red textile on it.

the other one from a topic here:

Jonathon Janusz · Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2008 9:10 am Post subject:

Lawrence, if you haven't been over there, check out the forum at armourarchive.org. This statue has been discussed on more than one occasion, and there have been some interesting discussions on the COP/brigandine style construction it suggests.

Cheers!

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks Jonathon, just found this over there I have seen before but this is interesting as there is a recontruction etc:http://www.mesa-online.de/41294.html

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject:

Well having looked at the photos that Jany Kobr sent I am convinced the leg harness at least was riveted onto a leather backing, in fact can't see how it could work without a thick leather backing, maybe it was latten like some of the black prince's armour?
But the body armour I can't figure out, as to work it surely would be covered but it does not look like it is to me?

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Mon 17 Mar, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject:

OK think I have it now, if the lining is on the outside then the rivets are at the top of the plates, whereas in this case they are at the bottom so therefore the lining is inside the plates, anyone disagree?