Saberidentification--need some help -- myArmoury.com

Peter G.

Last year i bought a saber-but i´m not quite sure what i got.
It looks similar to the M1796LC-but the blade is even more massive then the M1796.
The sellers guess was mid 18th cent hussar saber.
Any ideas?

Glen A Cleeton · Posted: Thu 31 Jan, 2008 6:13 am Post subject:

Hi Peter,

I know my first impression of these was a little off base but apparently not an uncommon form into the 19th century. there was a thread back in December that offered some information on similar swords.

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=11859

Cheers

GC

Peter G. · Posted: Thu 31 Jan, 2008 7:07 am Post subject:

Thx for the link Glen.

i know that these sabers were popular in 18/19th-i´m looking for info to close down the time range/land.

My guess was a private purchased variant of the M1796 when i saw the pics-but it is faaar more massive then the usual M1796.

Sa'ar Nudel · Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2008 6:25 am Post subject:

while talking to a fellow saber collecot he offered these options:
1. Indian army cavalry.
2. Danish Army.
3. Swedish artillery

After he sees the photos I'll get back with, hopefully, more accurate answer.

Robin Palmer · Posted: Thu 14 Feb, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject:

Hi peter I suspect it is a 1796 light cavalry I handled two 1796 sabres with dimensions similar to the photo at the military show at Detling in august 07 both were lesser quality weapons. I have seen several other illustrations showing weapons of these dimensions all were lesser quality common troopers or yeomanry regiments.

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Thu 14 Feb, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject:

Peter,
What are the measurements of the sword? What is the blade length? What is the blade width?

Thank you,
Jonathan

Peter G. · Posted: Fri 15 Feb, 2008 9:56 am Post subject:

@Robin that was my guess too

@Jonathan

the sizes are in cm/gr

weight 820gr, including scabbard 1300

lenght overall 88cm, blade 76cm long
blade is 5cm at the ricasso, getting slimmer till 4cm at the tip (unlike the M1796, there the blade is wider at the tip)
Pfeilhöhe 6.2cm- i don´t know the english word-thats how curved the saber is.
Its the distance between the blades back and a line drawn from tip to hilt.

Jonathan Hopkins · Posted: Fri 15 Feb, 2008 10:49 am Post subject:

Peter,
Thank you for the measurements. I would guess that this is an infantry (or some type of foot officer) sword in the style of the 1796 LC. 76 cm is roughly equal to 29.9 inches, which would be short for a cavalry weapon. Are there any indication as to its country of origin?

Jonathan

D Critchley · Posted: Fri 15 Feb, 2008 11:27 am Post subject:

I agree I think you have a sword made for a Yeomanry or Militia officer Peter

David

Sa'ar Nudel · Posted: Sat 16 Feb, 2008 2:36 am Post subject:

Two points to look at:
1. The hilt composition appears somewhat crude. Is the quillon terminal missing or finished without one?
2. The scabbard has both ring suspenders and a frog stud.