[Jason G. Smith]

I know - it's not an actual word, but I thought it'd get your attention...

http://www.medievalrepro.com/Premier.htm

The link above, about halfway down the page, has a Churburg replica armour. The fauld is of leather, and in the description it mentions it as being worn as a jerkin underneath the BP. Any ideas on how correct this would be for 14th-century use? I'm not doubting the work (which is gorgeous) I've just never seen it's likeness before. Essentially, are there any extant pieces remaining like this? Iconography? Anything? Thanks!

[Gregory J. Liebau]

The fauld, he says, is based on German models from effigies. I've seen what he's talking about. It is actually metal, and he riveted the separate plates inside of the leather cover, like a coat-of-plates. This does not seem unlikely for the era, but there is probably not an existing surviving fauld to show this construction. You'd have to turn to interpretations of effigies, and this seems like a fair example.

-Gregory-

[Allan Senefelder]

Peter's pretty likely to know what he's talking about, aside from his amazing talent as an armourer, he has a museum curiatorial background in armour as well.

Buckles are due in Friday Jason.

[Jason G. Smith]

[Chad Arnow]

Peter's site mentions horizontal plates, and the pics make them look like a little like the fauld on this one from Munich:



The horizontal plates on Peter's look like a segmented form of the hoops seen on the Munich cuirass to me.

[James Barker]

[Ivo Malz]

Hello.

Transitional armour often had a globose breastplate sans backplate on top of other armour bits, and the segmented Churburg IMHO can be put into this general bracket.

Contemporary art often shows a skirt or just an apron of varying construction being worn with a single breastplate. These come in a variety of materials, sometimes made from maille, sometimes in brigandine construction (indicated by the rivet heads on the outside), sometimes composed of horizontal lames, sometimes even covered in scales like in the effigy of Kunz Haberkorn.

This style seems to have lasted way into the "Kastenbrust era" so roughly until around AD 1440- 50.

Ivo

[Jason G. Smith]

Once again, thanks to the fine folks here - and thanks Allan for your service. You're good to me!

[Christoffer Lorang Dahl]

I am about to recieve a churburg #13 in febuary. I think it's the only churburg this side of Norway, so it will be a nice display of history. (But I do have to mention that a guy in my group is also making one, but that's another story)

The only worry I have, is that I cut my maille a bit to short, so that it ends right under the groin. That's why I am thinking about trying to make some type of skirt or faulds ( if that is the correct term.)

Did you guys conclude with this being possible, but to way off? I wont have a complete churburg after all, so that wont be a "problem". Didnt traveling and fighting around Europe make it possible to get different parts, different places?

[Christoffer Lorang Dahl]

Mini-bump.
That kind you should go to the doctor with.

[James Arlen Gillaspie]

My personal belief about the CH 13 is that its construction wasn't unusual at all - what is unusual is that it's 'naked', and would have ordinarily have been cloth covered. It's a really nice quick and dirty way for one man to make a globose breastplate with a minimum of skill or fuss, hence its popularity with modern armourers. I don't think there is anything Italian about its construction at all, as the only place anything like it has been seen is in German art. I would go with a cloth covered fauld instead of leather, myself, though, as cloth would be far more usual.