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S. Christiansen
Location: South Jutland, Denmark Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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 Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: Petersen Type X |
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Hello all,
This is my first sword. It's a Petersen Type X made by Paul Binns. I consider using some shoe polish to make the grip a bit more dark brown, and perhaps give the blade a light antiquing. The dimensions are as following:
Overall length: 91 cm/35.8"
Blade length: 74,5 cm/29.3"
Grip length: 11,5 cm/4.5"
What do you guys think? Personally I think the grip is a bit long, but other than that I don't have any objections.
- Sonni
Regards,
Sonni
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Mike Arledge
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Overall I like it, the blade has a nice shape and polish. Not a big fan of the hilt or pommel, both look a bit larger than needed to match the blade size. If they were smaller, I would think this is a nice piece.
Mike J Arledge
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Jessen Klaus
Location: Denmark/ Fredericia Joined: 27 Feb 2004
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For toning the grip, I would use "Narvsværte" (I'm not quite sure what the name is in english)
an alcohol based leather paint.
thinned down with alcohol so you get a thin solution and then apply it several times.
This way you will have more control over the color building up.
Where in sønderjylland are you living ?
Best regards
Klaus
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S. Christiansen
Location: South Jutland, Denmark Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Mike Arledge wrote: | | Overall I like it, the blade has a nice shape and polish. Not a big fan of the hilt or pommel, both look a bit larger than needed to match the blade size. If they were smaller, I would think this is a nice piece. |
Really? I've always quite liked the tea cosy pommel, probably because of its simplicity. To each his own, I guess. 
| Jessen Klaus wrote: | For toning the grip, I would use "Narvsværte" (I'm not quite sure what the name is in english)
an alcohol based leather paint.
thinned down with alcohol so you get a thin solution and then apply it several times.
This way you will have more control over the color building up.
Where in sønderjylland are you living ? |
I live close to Aabenraa. I might want to try narvsværte, though I'm not quite sure where to get it?
Regards,
Sonni
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Mike Arledge
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I like tea cosies, but that is a big tea cozy, compared to say the Albion Reeve, its a monster!
Mike J Arledge
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S. Christiansen
Location: South Jutland, Denmark Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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Compared to The Reeve it looks big, but isn't that what you call a brazil nut pommel? You should rather compare it to The Stamford. 
Regards,
Sonni
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Craig Peters
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| S. Christiansen wrote: | | Compared to The Reeve it looks big, but isn't that what you call a brazil nut pommel? You should rather compare it to The Stamford. |
Yes, it is a Brazil nut pommel. The tea cosy pommel is really more of a 12th century thing, though I know I've seen a sword in France with a tea cosy pommel (based upon its size and shape) and a Viking-style guard.
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Mike Arledge
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You are right, I wasn't thinking as I typed. But regardless its a fine sword!
Mike J Arledge
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Ville Vinje
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I would not use "narvsvärta". I would rather use ordinary olive oil (the more the better). If it is vegetably tanned leather (wich it most likely is) then you should get a darker redbrown tone.
The reason that this sword has a large pommel is most likely due to it being a blunt (as in a fighting blunt). Pauls swords are well known for being as well balanced as a sword can be. With a heavier blade you need a larger pommel.
I think the sword looks great and I bet it handles very well in show fighting.
/Ville
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S. Christiansen
Location: South Jutland, Denmark Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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I just tried olive oil, and I think it worked pretty well. It did get a nice and dark redbrown colour, as you said. I'll try and post a picture of it tomorrow.
I got it sharpened for free though, as I don't do re-enactment, but it's true that Paul Binns is well-known for the balance in his swords. I think mine handles well, but it's hard to tell since this is my first sword.
Regards,
Sonni
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Robin Smith
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| Craig Peters wrote: | | S. Christiansen wrote: | | Compared to The Reeve it looks big, but isn't that what you call a brazil nut pommel? You should rather compare it to The Stamford. |
Yes, it is a Brazil nut pommel. The tea cosy pommel is really more of a 12th century thing, though I know I've seen a sword in France with a tea cosy pommel (based upon its size and shape) and a Viking-style guard. |
No its most certainly more common in the 10th-11th C. There is a depiction of William the Conqueror in the Bayeux Tapestry with a Tea Cosy. Also, Oakeshott lumped the B1 with the shorter guard viking guard together into its own type (VIIIa). Although I have seen a few B1 on later swords, it's much more common in the late 10th-early11th...
EDIT: Almost forgot that in the Petersen typology the type X hilt style is classified as from the 11th C. I've never seen a reference to the Teacosy as a primarily 12th C occurance....
A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine
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Darrin Hughes
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Hi Sonni.
It's good to see one of Pauls' swords here, as they don't seem to pop up too often. I'm also glad that you are happy with it. I'm hoping to pick up my first Binns sword later this month, if all goes to plan, and it's always encouraging to see a happy customer. When I spoke to Paul last week he had just finished preparing the bundles for the core, so I'm guessing that I may have been the next on the waiting list.
Cheers,
Darrin.
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Audun Refsahl
Location: Norway Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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so you'r the guy stalling my order... well, as long as you'll put it to good use!
I also agree with type x being a nice and proper late viking age sword, and the pommel isnt really too big, i'm used to seeing them with longer crossguards but i see nothing wrong here. paul binns doesn't usually spend alot of time on details, but when it comes to function on the battlefield they are great swords!
congratulations, and oh, join your local viking reenactment group!
just bacon...
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S. Christiansen
Location: South Jutland, Denmark Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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| Darrin Hughes wrote: | | It's good to see one of Pauls' swords here, as they don't seem to pop up too often. |
My thoughts exactly. It seems like his works are quite popular, yet few mention them. I think it was quite hard just to find pictures of some of his work.
What sword did you order? Remember to post pictures of it when you get it. 
| Audun Refsahl wrote: | | congratulations, and oh, join your local viking reenactment group! |
Haha, maybe one day. I probably shouldn't use this sword though, as someone would then lose something.
Thanks for all the comments so far. Lastly, here is a picture showing the grip before and after it got oiled:
Regards,
Sonni
Last edited by S. Christiansen on Thu 04 Oct, 2007 2:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Jim Adelsen
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Looks like a real nice sword. Haven't seen him do that sort of grip before. Looks good. I have a Binns sharp that I like a lot. Probably still the best balanced sword I have.
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Hugo Voisine
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Wow ! Now that's my type of sword... I should get a Paul Binn sword one of those days... when I'll be done paying Merc Tailor, Tomasz Samula and Jan Motycka for my current orders...
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Audun Refsahl
Location: Norway Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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wheres the balancepoint on this one? never handeled any of his sharp ones, and I suppose you would want it to be different than a reenactment sword?
just bacon...
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S. Christiansen
Location: South Jutland, Denmark Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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The point of balance is about 8-8,5 cm (3.1-3.3") from the guard. I just wanted a nice sword that was as authentic as possible, and I believe that was what I got.
Regards,
Sonni
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Darrin Hughes
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Sonni.
I've ordered a Pattern-welded sword, based on the first blade featured in Swords of the Viking Age. The migration era blade with the layered core. This will be finished off with a type 4 hilt of bronze and bone.
I shall definitely post pictures, although I'm still getting to grips with photographing swords to the best effect.
Cheers,
Darrin.
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