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W. Schütz
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 Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: Info about simple sallet wanted |
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Any and all info on sallet - location, specs and ofcourse any other pictures wanted:
Its the sallet on the RIGHT side. Im expecting to come up dry on my search cos these "simple" type of helmets are unsually not what people go for, so any info will be much appriciated.
Link to high-res picture:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7822/mi02351b13anp0.jpg
Beautiful, minimalistic sallet;
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Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Sean Belair
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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there was an identical sallet in "arms and armor from rhodes" that i belive was of italian origin. i think the MET also has one but i cant recall there information on it
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Oliver Wiegand
Location: Germany Joined: 07 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Hi W.Schütz,
This is one of these sometimes in internet show up pictures from the old collection of the "Bayerischen Nationalmuseum" in Munich.
The picture is pre WW I and from a time Bavaria was still a Kingdom.
I think the items on display were part of the private arms and armour collection of the "Wittelsbacher" (The Bavarian Royal Family). After the end of monarchy in Germany and two wars, a big part of the collection is scattered to the four winds.
I don't know if the Wittelsbacher family could keep parts of the collection for their own.
But the helmet on the left side and the gauntlet are still to see for the public in the museum.
Maybe you could write the museum an e-mail. They should know something about the old collection.
Sorry that I have no details for the helmet on the the right side of the picture.
Best regards from Munich
Oliver
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info. Im writing the museum, tho i will be surprised if they know anything about it.
Keep me posted on the info, and id kill for another picture of this helmet.
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Michael Shayduk
Location: Kyiv,Ua Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Felix R.
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: |
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He explicitly asked for the RIGHT helmet not the left.
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Those are great pictures, unfortunatly its the other helmet in the picture im looking for. Not the german sallet but the other one.
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Brian Hook
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Hey W.Schütz,
Are you looking for info/pictures on that specific sallet? As Oliver pointed out that particular one's whereabouts or even the knowledge if the piece is even still intact are available, or are you looking for info on just simple visorless sallets in general, if it's the latter I would be happy to post original and reproduction pictures of other ones.
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well im most of all looking for pictures of the helmet in the picture i posted, but i am also interested in helmets of similar style. If you have pictures please post, all is welcome.
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Brian Hook
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Ok here we go orignals
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Brian Hook
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| Posted: Tue 04 Sep, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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and one more
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Wed 05 Sep, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks.
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Thu 06 Sep, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Apparently these type of sallets where sometimes originally a "normal" sallet that was then resmithed (is that a word?) to become lighter, more agile and with added visibility, needed for the battlefield in the early 16th cen.
I have also understood that there are several images of this type in the book Armour of medieval rhodes, a book that i currently dont have in reach. So if any kind soul could post these pics from the book i will dance at their wedding...
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Chuck Russell
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thats a book i missed out on when it had a 50 $ price tag. now i've seen it for well over 500 $$
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Hisham Gaballa
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Here are a few photos I took in the Royal Armouries in Leeds, click on the thumbnails please:
  
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