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Christian Fletcher
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 Posted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: Progress on next Valiant design |
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"Bristol", with a non-Oakeshott typology blade (though it's essentially a fullered type XVIII). I'm working on the scabbard now.
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Christian Fletcher
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Angus Trim
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Actually, the blade came out of my file of type XVIs......I consider the blade a XVI........
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Bill Grandy
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Wow, that prototype looks fantastic! Very nice work, gentlemen!
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Kenton Spaulding
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That is a great design, Christian. Well done. I really look forward to seeing the production version. This line has some serious potential. Oh, and Gus, that is one nasty looking blade...
Kenton
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Thomas Watt
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That is really nice!
Thanks for sharing... of course, when you've done, and if it's just laying around in the way, I'll be glad to give it a home... would be a shame to let it go to waste!
Seriously, that strikes a chord in me someplace... it's going to have to go on my list of "to haves".
Have 11 swords, 2 dirks, half a dozen tomahawks and 2 Jeeps - seem to be a magnet for more of all.
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J. Villarreal
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great stuff, guys. when do you think the prototypes will be back from china?
jason
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Lafayette C Curtis
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I can't do much but echo the sentiments expressed by others. It's a bloody beatutiful sword and I can't wait to see the production-line rendition...
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Angus Trim
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| J. Villarreal wrote: | great stuff, guys. when do you think the prototypes will be back from china?
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The swords that have been shown in the photos will stay in China. The first pieces made in China? Supposed to be on the market for the Christmas season.
swords are fun
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J. Villarreal
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methinks it's going to be a good christmas.
jason
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Hugo Voisine
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This sword looks great... elegant and badass. Is the chinesse maker supposed to do the grip has it is on the prototype or will there be some "simplifications" ?
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Christian Fletcher
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The finished scabbard and belt.
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Christian Fletcher
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Steve Grisetti
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I will be very interested to see how these wonderful AT/CF designs translate into the Chinese made production pieces.
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Jeremiah Swanger
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| Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Progress on next Valiant design |
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| Christian Fletcher wrote: | | "Bristol", with a non-Oakeshott typology blade (though it's essentially a fullered type XVIII). I'm working on the scabbard now. |
The blade's lines and proportions are both regal and elegant. Though the blade looks fairly short. I'm guessing 27"-30"? If so, it would be an excellent sword for I:33, methinks...
The execution of the hilt is absolutely stunning, especially considering the price point you guys are aiming for. The cross and pommel display real refinement in both proportion and detail.
I'm really looking forward to this!
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Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."
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Jared Smith
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| Posted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Progress on next Valiant design |
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The blade's lines and proportions are both regal and elegant. Though the blade looks fairly short. I'm guessing 27"-30"? If so, it would be an excellent sword for I:33, methinks... |
I was thinking similarly.
It looks like the grip and blade proportions might make this a very good one handed sword that could still be used "hand and a half" style as well. I would like to hear Gus's ideas on how it is intended to handle!
Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence!
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Christian Fletcher
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Angus Trim
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| Posted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Progress on next Valiant design |
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| Jared Smith wrote: | | Jeremiah Swanger wrote: |
The blade's lines and proportions are both regal and elegant. Though the blade looks fairly short. I'm guessing 27"-30"? If so, it would be an excellent sword for I:33, methinks... |
I was thinking similarly.
It looks like the grip and blade proportions might make this a very good one handed sword that could still be used "hand and a half" style as well. I would like to hear Gus's ideas on how it is intended to handle! |
Hi Jared
The blade length is 27 inches........
This one is for single hand combat, for handling {or fencing}, and yet with a acute enough, and strong enough point for working thru gaps.......
But its the handling.......
When I chose the blade for this, I chose it to be fairly versatile as far as pommel weights go. Some blades are real particular, some not so much.........
Since the blade coming back from China is likely to be a bit different than the one sent to China, I wanted a blade that would be "ok" if the distal taper differed a bit from the original model........
I wouldn't have gotten involved with this if the manufacturer was going to be based in nearly any other sword exporting nation. China however has a large and growing sword industry, of which there are at least three, really good forges. In particular, who can do really nice castings.........and who's blades feature pretty decent distal taper.....
However, its my understanding that the blades will be forged, not machined. So, its unrealistic to expect the kind of consistency that you can get from a blade manufactured in Kent, WA.
So.....no fancy distal tapers on these first projects. For completely handmade blades, forged and ground, or stock removal, convex distal taper is the most common you see, even a linear distal taper can be a challenge........
This particular blade, is slightly convex in distal taper. You could consider it linear, but in reality, its slightly convex. So, the final product should still be a fine product, even if the taper winds up a bit off as the blade is first forged, and later ground into shape............With this much handwork, you're going to have some variation...... and the design takes that into account..........
Should be a nice, quick cut and thrust sword.........great for fencing......
swords are fun
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Lloyd Clark
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Any new info on when these blades will be released for orders?
Cheers,
Lloyd Clark
2000 World Jousting Champion
2004 World Jousting Bronze Medalist
Swordmaster
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Michal Plezia
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Yeap-I can't wait any more  Late 2007...well it is now ;D
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Ransom Prestridge
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Sorry for the bumping of an old thread, but I've been curious about this blade and thought this thread would serve well enough as a springboard. Has anyone heard about any progress on this Valiant Armory/Trim/Fletcher sword? The Valiant website still says late Spring 2008 for the entire line, and while I know the Practicals have gone out I haven't heard any updates on these, and forum searches don't yield much new info I don't already know.
I didn't want to bother the makers themselves when I could just inquire here about the local scuttlebutt from other people eager to get their hands on this one, or other swords from the Signature collection.
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Anders Backlund
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I think I seriously want one of these, actually. The design is beautiful, and XVI is pretty much my favorite type.[/i]
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