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Mike H
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I just found the trailer for this upcoming movie and I think it will interest some here on this site
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809426394/video/3296319/
Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes- pope John Paul II
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David Sutton
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This looks brilliant can't wait till its released! Thanks for posting the link. 
'Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all'
'To teach superstitions as truth is a most terrible thing'
Hypatia of Alexandria, c400AD
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Roger Hooper
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Cate Blanchett and Geoffrey Rush reprise their roles from the earlier film. Blanchett does a good Elizabeth. She looks well in armour too.
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Hugh Fuller
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One hopes that they do a better job of telling Elizabeth's story than the prior movie did. Her story contains sufficient drama and action for two or three Hollywood films and that first piece of costumed junk tried to hype it up with fiction. Bah!
Hugh
Still trying to walk in the Light
Please see 1 John 1:5
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James Barker
Location: Ashburn VA Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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| Sean Flynt wrote: | | But a gothic harness? It would have been a century out of fashion by 1588. |
70 years old at least. Newer fashions start about 1510.
James Barker
Historic Life http://www.historiclife.com/index.html
Archer in La Belle Compagnie http://www.labelle.org/
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Greg Coffman
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Well I'm pumped up
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
-Hebrews 4:12
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Joe Fults
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Without picking on the details, it looks pretty at least. 
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
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Mike H
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| Posted: Tue 10 Jul, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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well i cant wait. ive been wanting another "historical" sword epic for a while. I dont count 300 as one. I think the last one that was in theaters was kingdom of heaven
Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes- pope John Paul II
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Lin Robinson
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Saw the trailer in the theater last weekend. Looks good. However, I note what appears to be an historical inaccuracy right out of the box. The fire ships sent against the armada never actually struck a Spanish ship. Looks like that is happening in one scene.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Roger Hooper
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Here is a photo of the infamous armour.
Joseph Fiennes isn't listed in the credits, so apparently Robert Dudley has been written out.
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Torsten F.H. Wilke
Location: Irvine Spectrum, CA Joined: 01 Jul 2006
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Wow, there is definately some artistic license in the design of that harness, but not bad. This is what a sixteenth century armourer would have arrived at, when having been asked to update a century old style. A very interesting interpretation!
Notice the many mid to late sixteenth century features on the various parts? Check out how the Gothic elbow cops were morphed into a later rounded butterfly style. The fluting is exaggerated, yet a certain smoothness or roundedness has been designed into all the parts, deviating from the standard Gothic "sharpness". The pauldrons are definately of a later style, too bad they didn't incorporate turners. I would also like to see photos of the helm and leggings, and especially of the "rear" protection... even if there is none 
ps; Where do I sign-up to help her suit-up??? No, really...
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David Evans
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| Roger Hooper wrote: | Here is a photo of the infamous armour.
Joseph Fiennes isn't listed in the credits, so apparently Robert Dudley has been written out. |
I'm sorry....Why am I thinking LoTR?????
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Edward Hitchens
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| David Evans wrote: | | Joseph Fiennes isn't listed in the credits, so apparently Robert Dudley has been written out. |
I'm sorry....Why am I thinking LoTR?????[/quote]
I just saw the trailer myself and I'm definitely seeing it. The Royal Navy engaged the Spanish Armada in July of 1588; Dudley died about six weeks later (possibly of stomach cancer). I didn't see Joseph Fiennes in the trailer either, but this could be why. 
Perhaps you're thinking LOTR because Cate Blanchett starred in those films too (though I don't think she wore any armour). She sure does resemble her LOTR character in the picture that Roger posted!! I wish I could remember her character's name....
BTW, who's directing this new film?
"The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest." Thomas Jefferson
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David Sutton
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| Edward Hitchens wrote: | | Perhaps you're thinking LOTR because Cate Blanchett starred in those films too (though I don't think she wore any armour). She sure does resemble her LOTR character in the picture that Roger posted!! I wish I could remember her character's name.... |
Cate Blanchett played Galadriel in LOTR.
'Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all'
'To teach superstitions as truth is a most terrible thing'
Hypatia of Alexandria, c400AD
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Jean Thibodeau
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Cate Blanchett in armour: YUMMY, for so many reasons. 
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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David Evans
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| Sean Flynt wrote: | | I should point out that my skepticism about the armour in no way reduces my interest in the film. Looks great--much better, from an arms & armour standpoint, than the HBO film (I wanted to reach through the screen and turn Jeremy Irons' rapier the right way up!). |
Hate to upset you, but from an English viewpoint, that is so right....! For some reason a fashion arose to wear rapiers knucklebow upwards. Annoyingly I can't find a picture of this thro A.V.B.Norman does comment on it!
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Sean Flynt
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| David Evans wrote: | | Sean Flynt wrote: | | I should point out that my skepticism about the armour in no way reduces my interest in the film. Looks great--much better, from an arms & armour standpoint, than the HBO film (I wanted to reach through the screen and turn Jeremy Irons' rapier the right way up!). |
Hate to upset you, but from an English viewpoint, that is so right....! For some reason a fashion arose to wear rapiers knucklebow upwards. Annoyingly I can't find a picture of this thro A.V.B.Norman does comment on it! |
Well, I did wonder about that. I thought maybe there was some custom to do this at court (to make it difficult to draw the weapon,) but his seemed to be the only weapon carried this way.
-Sean
Author of the Little Hammer novel
https://www.amazon.com/Little-Hammer-Sean-Flynt/dp/B08XN7HZ82/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=little+hammer+book&qid=1627482034&sr=8-1
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