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Rodolfo Martínez
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 Posted: Tue 26 Jun, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: Combined and weird Medieval /Renaissance armament |
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Hello Guys.
I´ve seen the features site talking about combined weapons, like the rapier with the hidden dagger and so on (Sorry, i just can´t remember the link) and i got amazed with all the weird Medieval/ Renaissance stuff. So, i opened this thread, first to upload some truly strange gears and, to ask you What type of combined/ weird European/ American/African weaponry do you know?
Do you know if any horseman axe with a hammerhead too existed? (Like a small poleaxe)
Thanks.
P.D.
This is totally off topic but, Do anyone have any image or photo of an XVI century arming sword (Specially 1500-1550) without a complex hilt but side rings and a good pommel?
Do you have any photo of mounted Maximilian armours?
Thanbks again.
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Eric Meulemans
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There resides in the Dresden Rüstkammer at the Zwinger a combination mace and... pepper mill.
Who wouldn't want to keep one of those at their table? I'll see if I have some pictures of it. It's all steel, and quite substantial as I recall.
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Chad Arnow
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Addison C. de Lisle
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A hinged spear which I thought was rather neat at the HIggin's Armoury
A hlmet fitting which as me confused - I have no idea what it would be for....
A very cool helm
Some strange pollarms. I think th sabre/axe almost looks like it'd be more efficient without the axe part. I like the hooked spear the best.
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Russ Ellis
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[Some strange pollarms. I think th sabre/axe almost looks like it'd be more efficient without the axe part. I like the hooked spear the best. |
There's some question as to whether or not the "saber halberds" are actually legitimate period weapons or are a flight of fantasy from a later era. I remember seeing them at the Higgins too and thinking they seemed rather odd at the time.
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Hugo Voisine
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Very cool pictures guys, thanks for that.
Addison, is this hinged spear somewhat broken or dismounted, or is it some kind of "folding spear" ?
« Que dites-vous ?... C'est inutile ?... Je le sais !
Mais on ne se bat pas dans l'espoir du succčs !
Oh ! non, c'est bien plus beau lorsque c'est inutile ! »
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Chad Arnow
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A hlmet fitting which as me confused - I have no idea what it would be for....
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I believe this type of setup for used for a German jousting style called the Rennen. These used sallets and bevors bolted to each other and often to the breastplate (and in at least one case to the backplate). I think the idea was to immobilze the head to prevent injury. Those big wingnuts are crazy. 
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Dan P
Location: Massachusetts, USA Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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| Hugo Voisine wrote: | | Addison, is this hinged spear somewhat broken or dismounted, or is it some kind of "folding spear" ? |
I was just at the Higgins two days ago and I saw this very item!
I think it is a spring-loaded "switchblade" style spear... when completely closed the two side blades fold into the main blade. Anyway its completely cool.
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Andreas Auer
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | Addison C. de Lisle wrote: |
A hlmet fitting which as me confused - I have no idea what it would be for....
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I believe this type of setup for used for a German jousting style called the Rennen. These used sallets and bevors bolted to each other and often to the breastplate (and in at least one case to the backplate). I think the idea was to immobilze the head to prevent injury. Those big wingnuts are crazy. |
Yep here in Innsbruck at the Castele Ambras there are a few of these sportive jousting protective parts, they are at the formost part about 1cm thick. ...impressive...
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Danny Grigg
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| Dan P wrote: | | Hugo Voisine wrote: | | Addison, is this hinged spear somewhat broken or dismounted, or is it some kind of "folding spear" ? |
I was just at the Higgins two days ago and I saw this very item!
I think it is a spring-loaded "switchblade" style spear... when completely closed the two side blades fold into the main blade. Anyway its completely cool. |
From "The Complete Encyclopedia of Arms and Weapons, Edited by Leonid Tarassuk & Claude Blair":
"The folding spear was a special type of weapon, developed in Italy in the 16th century and later found throughout Europe. The head had a conspicuously long, straight, double-edged blade, often reinforced with ribbing; at the base of the head there were two long, curved wings, with the cutting edge on the inside. The wings could be folded in toward the head, which in turn could be folded in toward the haft; and in turn the haft could be folded two or three times, which reduced the size of the weapon and made it easier to carry. This spear served as a weapon for wealthy noblemen only, not least because of the high cost of manufacture and the expensive decoration which often embellished it."
Danny
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Lafayette C Curtis
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God! That armor is...bizarre. What collection is it from?
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Hugo Voisine
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Thanks for the info, Dan and Danny. This thing looks so cool...
This type of weapon would make a nice custom project if done by, let's say, Arms & Armour.
« Que dites-vous ?... C'est inutile ?... Je le sais !
Mais on ne se bat pas dans l'espoir du succčs !
Oh ! non, c'est bien plus beau lorsque c'est inutile ! »
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Rodolfo Martínez
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Take a look to this armours.
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Ivo Malz
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| Lafayette C Curtis wrote: | | God! That armor is...bizarre. What collection is it from? |
Real Armeria, Madrid, Spain.
Regards
Ivo
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Hugo Voisine
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The two last ones look like armors from outer-space.  The helmet of the last one seems to represent some kind of bird of prey, don't you think ?
Three-quarter look on this picture :
Do somebody knows if all the components of those armors really belongs together, or if they are composite like the Churburg armor ?
Thanks
« Que dites-vous ?... C'est inutile ?... Je le sais !
Mais on ne se bat pas dans l'espoir du succčs !
Oh ! non, c'est bien plus beau lorsque c'est inutile ! »
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Rodolfo Martínez
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| Posted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The two last ones look like armors from outer-space. The helmet of the last one seems to represent some kind of bird of prey, don't you think ? |
Yeah, you are right. I think that ¨falcon armor¨ is some kinda parade-tonlet armour. Maybe those weird visors (If used in battle) worked like those awesome samurai masks called somen.
¨Sólo me desenvainarás por honor y nunca me envainarás sin gloria¨
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Mick Czerep
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The stuff with the really long and wide fauld is for foot-tournament, for better leg protection. They did go for the decorative and cool in the sixteenth century, didn't they...
cheers
Mick
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