16th Century Warfare in art. -- myArmoury.com

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: 16th Century Warfare in art.

Hello people.

Do you know if there is any site where i can watch some Renaisance woodcuts, tapestries or something like that showing French (Or English) Gendarmes, and Swiss mercenaries?

Thanks.

Chad Arnow · myArmoury Team

There's a historic art album in our photo albums.

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Fri 15 Jun, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject:

Yes, i have searched there before, thanks anyway. NIce woodcuts.

Danny Grigg · Posted: Sat 16 Jun, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject:

Is this of any help??

http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/main.p...temId=9897

Danny

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Sat 16 Jun, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject:

Yes, of course. Thanks

Do you know if there is any woodcut showing men-at-ams fighting with maces, axes or hammers from horseback?

Thanks.

Daniel Staberg · Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 9:17 am Post subject:

I've uploaded some images on the requested subjects into the Albums but they will have to be approved by a moderator before being available.

Images of cavalry using those weapons are rare, off-hand i can olny thing I've ver seen one, a warhammer beign used in the painting of the Rout of San Romano.

Daniel Staberg · Posted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007 11:10 am Post subject:

IMG]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/Captain_Gars1632/Ravenna_1512.jpg[/IMG]
French Gendarmes in a print representing the battle of Ravenna

IMG]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/Captain_Gars1632/Swiss_Fornovo_1495_2.jpg[/IMG]
A close up of the Swiss gewalthaufen at Fornovo in a German print from 1496. Note the dismounted archers armed with longbows on the far side of the Swiss square.

I've also attached one of th eimages from the tomb of Francis I showing him in action against the Swiss at the battle of Marignano.

Daniel Staberg · Posted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007 11:11 am Post subject:

Since the images I tried to upload to the albums section have yet to appear I've posted them directly to this tread instead.

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French Gendarmes in a print representing the battle of Ravenna

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A close up of the Swiss gewalthaufen at Fornovo in a German print from 1496. Note the dismounted archers armed with longbows on the far side of the Swiss square.

I've also attached one of th eimages from the tomb of Francis I showing him in action against the Swiss at the battle of Marignano.

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Wed 27 Jun, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject:

Thank you very much Mr. Staberg, those are wonderful images, specially the one of the Gendarmes. I can also apreciate the weaponry of each guy even the Gendarmes´ swords in wich i´m totally interested if not obsesed (Specially the one with the bastard-sword). Thanks to all guys.

Hisham Gaballa · Posted: Thu 28 Jun, 2007 4:08 am Post subject:

A couple more, they're from Niall Barr's "Flodden 1513":

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys...solder.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys..._Spurs.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys...lodden.jpg

I can't remember where I found these:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys...eA_227.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys...fficer.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys...ikemen.jpg

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Thu 28 Jun, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject:

Truly nice woodcuts people. Do you know if there is any showing any centred man-at-arms(King or whatever) like in Durer´s knight?

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Sat 30 Jun, 2007 9:52 am Post subject:

Hello again, i just remembered that i had this woodcut please take a look to this woodcut i´ve found some weeks ago here.
There are two men-at-arms wielding bastard swords from horseback, one is in the middle of the image and other is hidden in the right part. What do you think about it? (Accuracy and whatever)
There is a guy wearing a sallet too!

http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/displayimage....amp;pos=15

Thanks.

Lafayette C Curtis · Posted: Sat 30 Jun, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject:

I don't see anything odd with that woodcut. What particular "inaccuracy" do you have in mind?

Rodolfo Martínez · Posted: Sun 01 Jul, 2007 11:39 am Post subject:

Maybe the mounted bastard-sword, the guy wearing the sallet...

Lafayette C Curtis · Posted: Mon 02 Jul, 2007 3:47 am Post subject:

Hm...well, the swords are being used in one hand in the usual manner of mounted swordmanship, so I don't think the extra unused length in the grip would be a significant issue. After all, my meager experience in using longswords on horseback shows that most of them are fairly good weapons for horseback use--as long as you make sure the pommel doesn't get in your face.

And a sallet in the 16th century would not exactly be out of place either. Changes in fashion are gradual rather than discrete, and when it comes to armor--especially high-quality, individually fitted, expensive armor--old items often get reused without major modifications if they fit the new owner. Maybe the rider wearing the sallet was simply wearing his father's or grandfather's sallet because 1) their heads weren't all that different in size or conformation, 2) it still gave the protection he needed, and 3) it still fit the company's guidelines for its members' equipment.

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