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Kevin G.
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 Posted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: Could someone help ID this sword? |
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Hello,
Could someone help a newby identify this sword? Loa = 27.5", blade 22.5" x 1" wide On top of back near guard "T" or "E" "RLLV" "L" or "I"
Thanks
Kevin
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Curt Cummins
Location: Portland, OR Joined: 03 May 2007
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Looks like a French, I think, Lebel bayonet blade.
Ye braggarts and awe be a'skeered and awa, frae Brandoch Daha
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Curt Cummins
Location: Portland, OR Joined: 03 May 2007
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Sorry, that would be a French chassepot Yataghan bayonet - could be British. Look at bayonets of the - Crimean war - Franco-Prussian war era.
Ye braggarts and awe be a'skeered and awa, frae Brandoch Daha
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Steven H
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Pardon my ignorance of the subject . . . how does it attach to a gun. The hilt looks like a normal sword hilt 
Thanks
Kunstbruder - Boston area Historical Combat Study
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Kevin G.
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I thought it may be a French Briquette manufactured at Tulle.
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David Sutton
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Its possible that the blade has been rehilted at a later date. The blade looks very bayonet like and some c19th bayonets could be quite long and have sword style hilts, almost infantry hangers that double as a bayonet.
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Curt Cummins
Location: Portland, OR Joined: 03 May 2007
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I thought it was probably re-hilted with a home made guard. This wouldn't have been an uncommon practice. waste not want not. The hilt looks European.
Ye braggarts and awe be a'skeered and awa, frae Brandoch Daha
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Gary A. Chelette
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Looks like a French hanger, early to mid1800's maybe.
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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This is way past my period of knowledge but I'm guessing it's a re-hilted sword bayonet. Here are some pics of bayonets with similar shaped blades:
1866 Chassepot
1856 Enfield
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Kevin G.
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Wow, what a klutz I am. I was getting a book down from a shelf and I knocked the sword in question off the shelf too. Well the sword fell point first right onto my right big toe. It can still puncture flesh. This beast may be a altered bayonet. The fuller doesn't seem to match any bayonet fuller of this basic shape that I can find. The guard appears to be of the same age and condition as the blade. The handle is a sore spot, along with my toe, it is bulky and isn't as graceful as the guard and blade.
Thanks
Kevin
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Joe Fults
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Could have shortened it somewhat to get the current guard and grip on...altering the appearance of where the fuller sits in relation to the guard in the process.
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Richard Wells
Location: Devon,England Joined: 02 Jun 2007
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I reckon it looks like an arsenal conversion using a bayonet blade. It seems a lot of trouble for an individual to go to to make a sword !
There are cases of conversions done for local use, where new weapons for equipping units were not readily available. Possibly naval or perhaps a locally produced side arm for native troops.
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