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Brian St.Hilaire
Location: Pelham, NH Joined: 09 Apr 2007
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 Posted: Mon 09 Apr, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: commonality of 1 piece gothic breast plate |
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Does anyone have any evidence of a late 15th century Gothic breast plate manufactured from a single sheet? I have no references in any of my texts. In particular, I really like the look of the Manning Imperial Gothic harness, and would like any advice as to its suitability for a late 15th century kit.
Thanks, Brian
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James Arlen Gillaspie
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Location: upstate NY Joined: 10 Nov 2005
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They were around. Here's one from Churburg, and the RA in the UK has a couple, one of which is thought to be Spanish, if I remember rightly.
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Chad Arnow
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I thumbed through some of my books and found 2 harnesses with single-piece breastplates. Both were fluted to create a faux-two-piece look, but it was obvious they were single-piece.
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Bill Grandy
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | I thumbed through some of my books and found 2 harnesses with single-piece breastplates. Both were fluted to create a faux-two-piece look, but it was obvious they were single-piece. |
Could you scan those, Chad? I would be very interested in seeing them!
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Chad Arnow
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | Could you scan those, Chad? I would be very interested in seeing them! |
I re-looked at them, and one of them is two-piece. The photo is just so washed out and poor that you can't tell that they're separate pieces. Here's the other one, though.
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Randall Moffett
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James,
Is this the one you were thinking of? Brand new photo for you one piece breastplate.
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William Knight
Location: Mid atlantic, US Joined: 02 Oct 2005
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I don't have a scanner, but in the Osprey warrior book for the Hopitallers 1306-1565 includes a photo of a one-piece breastplate that's fluted in a radiating pattern and associated pieces, from the armoury at rhodes, so it should be in that book as well. I think it was late 15th century. Not sure if it were german or, more likely, Italian export. Whether it's 'gothic' depends on your definition.
-Will
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Bill Grandy
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That's really neat. Thanks, Chad!
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Chad Arnow
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | That's really neat. Thanks, Chad! |
I actually love the sallet on that harness. If I had one made, that would be the one.
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Bill Grandy
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | Bill Grandy wrote: | | That's really neat. Thanks, Chad! |
I actually love the sallet on that harness. If I had one made, that would be the one. |
I'm feeling the same way.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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James Arlen Gillaspie
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Randall, could be. Last time I saw it in '01 it was by itself.
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