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Artis Aboltins
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 Posted: Mon 21 Mar, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: Early 15th century brigandines |
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Greetings! Recently a question arose regarding a likehood of using brigandines in Britain in the late 14th and early 15th centuries - there is plenty of information regarding second half of the 15th century, but what about the early part? For example, how likely is that man at arms could have used a brigandine in Agincourt? Is there any documentary or iconographic evidence? As far as I am aware, there is no actual findings of parts of such armour, or am I wrong?
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Ben Anbeek
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Artis Aboltins
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| Posted: Wed 23 Mar, 2011 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Ben Anbeek wrote: | Probably a brigandine is too late for beginning of the 15 century.
But a coat of plates will do
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Well we have samples of brigandines from the time period - Chalchis beeing the best known, of course, also from Livorno area. The question is more in regards of possibility of it beeing used in Britain.
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Egidijus Stonkus
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Artis, Could you post some images or links on brigandines from Livorno?
I haven't heard of any brigandines from there...
As far as I know, There are some examples of transitional brigandines, but they are called corazzina and there are some examples on the internet.
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Michal Plezia
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Artis Aboltins
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| Posted: Thu 24 Mar, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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I am attaching a couple of pictures from the finds in Livorno area - like I said, the placement of plates is questionable, but they are hard evidence of their existence.
Michal, I am a bit doubtful about the possibility of this armour being from the late 14th century - it's construction appears to be more like second part of 15th century, judging from the size of the plates. Can you give any more information about that particular brigandine?
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Bartek Strojek
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| Quote: | | Michal, I am a bit doubtful about the possibility of this armour being from the late 14th century - it's construction appears to be more like second part of 15th century, judging from the size of the plates. Can you give any more information about that particular brigandine? |
This brigandine is commonly attributed to Charles VI, anywhere I can see.
It is, as it can be seen, connected with hourglass gauntlets and the rest of armor pieces from around that time, in Chatres Catedral, I believe.
If it is properly dated, is another question, of course, but it's being called c.1380
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This is a standard topic