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W. Schütz
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 Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: Anyone know this rondel dagger? |
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The best looking rondel dagger i have ever seen, but i want to find a better pic of it or of the original, anyone sitting on any info..?
The pic;
http://bjorn.foxtail.nu/images/wh15c.jpg
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Alex Oster
Location: Washington and Yokohama Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I'd take that hammer anyday! :)
The pen is mightier than the sword, especially since it can get past security and be stabbed it into a jugular.
This site would be better if everytime I clicked submit... I got to hear a whip crack!
My collection: Various Blades & Conan related
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Alex Oster wrote: | | Wow, I'd take that hammer anyday! :) |
Hehe yes i know the hammer is in focus in that pic, but please people - revert your eyes to the dagger at hand!
They are both made by Peter Johnsson so thats why they are insanely pretty.
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Alex Oster
Location: Washington and Yokohama Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| W. Stilleborn wrote: | | They are both made by Peter Johnsson |
That explains it. :p
Try emailing him then?
The pen is mightier than the sword, especially since it can get past security and be stabbed it into a jugular.
This site would be better if everytime I clicked submit... I got to hear a whip crack!
My collection: Various Blades & Conan related
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Alex Oster wrote: | | W. Stilleborn wrote: | | They are both made by Peter Johnsson |
That explains it. :p
Try emailing him then? |
Yea i sent a PM to him a while back, but no reply. Ill look for a real email adress.
But i would still appreciate if someone posted some nice info about it, since Peter J is a busy man i reckon..
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I got the reply from Peter J. i was looking for, great stuff as usual!
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Fabrice Cognot
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Wed 22 Mar, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Hehe, yes ofcourse. Well we where not discussing hard historical facts only so ill try to translate the gist of it:
"I made this dagger 9-10 years ago. Its a quite exact copy of one at the Stockholm Historical Museum. The original is from around 1500. Nice and unplesant things these! Most of the originals are quite slim/nimble in its dimensions. Feels like a civilian daggers for welthy middle/upper class".
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Peter Johnsson
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| Posted: Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Tanks for positive comments!
The dagger Wilhelm headed this thread with was made some 9-10 years ago.
I like these small all steel daggers.
They seem to have been popular during the 15th c and early 16th c.
Some years after I made the one Wiliam commented on, I got an opportunity to document a nice and rather well preserved on at the Historical Museum in Stockholm.
I decided to make a detailed study of this one and made a copy. This is one of the few blades I´ve made that is still with me.
As there has bees some interest in daggers lately. I thought there might be an interest in seeing photos of an oiginal and a completed copy.
In this project I wanted to get not just the dimensions and shapes, but also the same surface finish I think the original had: polished but with some fine filemarks showing.
detail photos of original and copy:
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The guard is a three-lobed ballock derivate shape. Blade is three edged.
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Note filework on grip and guard. The seam of the grip was never soldered, just forged close.
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Overall a rather slim little dagger. The grip fits snugly in your hand. Tightness between pommel disc and guard helps provide a goood grip despite the narrowness of the grip.
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The guard was fileworked with rope and shell shape decorations. This puts the dagger right at the beginning of the 16th C, just within a few years of the new century.
The pommel disc is hollow, made of two pieces of plate; the flat upper part folded over
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Kel Rekuta
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Peter,
Your work is an inspiration. :cool:
Thanks for the images. With your permission, I'd like to make prints to show the next student who asks "How can we put our hands on a blade without getting cut?" :D
Cheers!
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Fri 24 Mar, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for a great reply. The past is aliiiiiiive!
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Brian M
Location: Austin, TX Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Now that is a very ornate icepick!
Brian M
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Fabrice Cognot
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Russ Ellis
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| Posted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for providing the pictures Peter, I've REALLY got to pick up one of these rondels...
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Joshua Reptsik
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Good God that thing pretty!
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