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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar, 2019 11:45 am    Post subject: 14th century greatsword maker marks         Quote

I'm planning a custom XIIIa sword and I would like it to have a Solingen or Passau maker mark on it. What kind would be appropriate? Running wolf? Orb and cross? All suggestions and pictures welcome.
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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject:         Quote

IMO, both a wolf and or orb belong to the later centuries. Here is a Passau guideline from Wagner. Listed as back to the 13th century but latten inlaid examples I have seen tend to be 14th century or later.

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The orb on Spanish first? I dunno.

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Ryan Renfro




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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject:         Quote

Here is the engraving on Records XIIIa. 9.


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Hass Fernen





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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject:         Quote

Here are some images with makers marks:

If you don't mind me asking a question were makers marks such as this done only on on side of the blade or both sides?



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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Sun 14 Apr, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject:         Quote

I've come across some later Passau marks
http://atkinson-swords.com/marks-and-stamps/m...miths.html

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GC
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Maciej K.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr, 2019 3:01 am    Post subject:         Quote

Luka, I would highly suggest to take marks from existing sword of the similar kind and region, and have similar stuff - or combine some from that group which you like. Style of the wolf is important for individual maker and period. I would try to find already exiting combination. Don`t trust too much that old illustrations.
Remember Passau wolfs mostly runs from the hilt to the point of the blade, they are combined with other marks (crosses, hearts, initials, "logos", etc mostly closer the hilt than wolfs) - and we know many various examples. Of course I am talking about 14th-15th cent.
You can check examples from the catalog (Zagreb museum) which you sent me before (thanks again!).
If you want some more advices - you can contact me on FB to talk. I think I know this topic quite well :)

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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr, 2019 8:26 am    Post subject:         Quote

The wolves were the Passau guild marks, with the other marks as you say more personal. The manner in which later Solingen marks also showed guild marks but also individuality such as the foliate seen on the spines at the guard and talismanic context.

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