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Bill Grandy
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Decorative/Fancy medieval bucklers         Reply with quote

I'd like to start a thread on examples of ornate or outlandish bucklers from the medieval period. I'd mostly like to see either modern reproductions, or else photos of originals, but I don't mind medieval illustrations either.

While I'd mainly prefer this topic to focus on medieval bucklers, I won't cry if someone has an example of a very cool buckler from another period that they want to share. Happy

Examples include the face-bucklers from Paulus Kal's fencing manuscript, or some of the exotic, fluted ones from Hans Talhoffer's.

To start off, here's a very nice one made by White Rose Armoury (http://www.whiterosearmoury.co.uk/) :


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A repro of a Talhoffer buckler, dont know who made it.


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Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Not really a buckler, but hard to make a post about extreme shields and not include this one;


Original one, iron spikes on hardened leather;


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vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost.


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An example of a so-called Welsh buckler from the Royal Ontario Museum. The boss and grip are iron. The face seems to be constructed of layered leather fastened with hundreds of nails. Way too much work!


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Dec, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kel Rekuta wrote:
Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost.


These are very similar and from Middelalderens Vaben by Liebgott, Nationalmuseet. 1976. ISBN 87-480-0114-7



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PostPosted: Sat 02 Dec, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fantastic stuff, guys.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Dec, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Bucklers - Fancy         Reply with quote

Hi............Yes , I agree fantastic stuff. Some of you know I have a bit of a shield thing ! I found a few nice ones in my files. There seems to be some debate at to weather or not bucklers were ever used in combat, but I have a heap in pics stored in a file illustrating their use in war......one or two even with a longsword !


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kel Rekuta wrote:
Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost.


not norse, but iron age i believe
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chuck Russell wrote:
Kel Rekuta wrote:
Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost.


not norse, but iron age i believe

The piece of text says Middelaldlerig, now I don't actually speak the language used in the text, but something similarly Germanic and we have a word "Middeleeuws".
And "alt" is 'old' in German, so I'm guessing it stands for "as in the Middle Ages" (it seems to be an adjective).
So I'm opting mediaeval Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kel Rekuta wrote:
Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost.


These are norwegian medevial bucklers, in the colection of the Oslo historical museum.
As far as I remember, they are dated to the high middle ages.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Dec, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a cool 14th century bucker from the Museum of London I took pictures of on my trip to fight at Hastings. It is a wood base with metal bits on top:







Half was cleaned up and half was left as is for the display.


Here is an early 16th one made of leather with a few metal bits on it, also from the MoL:








Here are bits of another one of thos cool 16th century radar looking buckler, also in the MoL:







I have a few more examples of this kind of boss/buckler from other museums that I have not sorted yet.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Dec, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: MoL Tudor Buckler         Reply with quote

Here's another view of the leather & iron buckler in the Museum of London. I wish I had dimensions for it. I didn't have anything to measure with when I saw it.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Dec, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, wouldn't it be possible to discover what the size was of the dotted line on the base?
That way you can probably extrapolate the buckler's original size.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Dec, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It was about 12 inches round. It was slightly bigger than the 14th century buckler that is 10 inches round.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's a few more bucklers.

Can't remember where I found these pics, but it was online......

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Danny Grigg wrote:
Here's a few more bucklers.

Can't remember where I found these pics, but it was online......

Danny


The second one is from Paulus Kal's fechtbuch. I love those face bucklers. Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Brocchiere (buckler) from the catalog of the Czerny's auction house

http://server.thetisweb.com/czernysasp/scheda...lotto=2031


A brocchiere from palazzo bagatti valsecchi's museum in Milan (click on the little magnifier under the thumbnails to get a quality pic)

http://www.lombardiacultura.it/evento.cfm?ID=421

A rotella (round shield, rpetty similar to buckler) again from czerny

http://server.thetisweb.com/czernysasp/scheda...amp;ris=20

Another rotella

http://server.thetisweb.com/czernysasp/scheda...amp;ris=10

And another

http://server.thetisweb.com/czernysasp/scheda...amp;ris=10
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Man these are cool! Thanks for everyone!
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

See attached, a reconstruction of a norwegian buckler (viking).

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http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/viewto...an+buckler
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