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Dan D'Silva





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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr, 2020 7:50 am    Post subject: 17th-c. German hunting knife conversion         Reply with quote

Thought I'd share this little project. It's made from a "Spanish mini-belduque" that can be acquired from several sellers.


The wood faux-antler scales aren't entirely convincing in person, but, eh.

So, I was wondering if anyone could recommend what I might use for the fork, bodkin and cleaver. For the latter I had the idea of perhaps using a machete in the 12-inch range. It's my understanding that a meat cleaver should have a very heavy blade for its length.



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Dan D'Silva





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PostPosted: Sun 31 May, 2020 5:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How about a Condor Ironpath? Rather pricey, yes, but about the closest thing I've found to an original in a functional knife. Just have to defer ordering for a while.

The other thing I've considered is a frontier rifleman's knife blade from Crazy Crow. It may not look like a typical cleaver but you'll note that there is one in my collage (upper row, fourth from the right) that has a similar shape. It's cheap enough that I would just go for it, except I don't know whether the blade's weight and balance would be suitable for a meat cleaver, and also whether it would be hard enough. Crazy Crow says outright that they don't know the exact alloys or hardness range of their 5450 line of blades, and several of us have observed that this one as well as their Scottish dirk blade (part of the same line) are tempered pretty soft.



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If the ricasso is too anachronistic, I could reshape the tang and drill extra rivet holes so the guard sits over it.

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Eric W. Norenberg





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PostPosted: Sun 31 May, 2020 9:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Dan,
How about this Devilís Edge single edged qama, might be a good donor blade for the cleaver:
http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AK017

I have no idea of the blades quality, havenít picked one up myself, but the dimensions and overall profile might be close to your needs.
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Dan D'Silva





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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun, 2020 5:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks -- dunno how that one slipped my notice but it does look like a better option than nearly any other so far.
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Dan D'Silva





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PostPosted: Sun 21 Feb, 2021 9:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Heya. I'm making final plans for the cleaver hilt. I'm gonna do the bolsters in nickel silver to match the by-knife, but I was pondering making the side ring from mild steel or brass because I'm finding nickel silver a major pain to bend (it doesn't anneal anywhere near as easily, either by air-cooling or quenching). Would the combination of nickel bolsters and a steel or brass side ring look too strange, in your opinion?
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