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Pedro Paulo Gaião
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Mark Moore
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I've never seen one exactly like that. It being in a video game, I presume there is a bit of fantasy there. The one in your last photo is probably historic. I'm more interested in the little fellow on the left with the horns!  .....McM
''Life is like a box of chocolates...'' --- F. Gump
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Mart Shearer
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| Mark Moore wrote: | | I'm more interested in the little fellow on the left with the horns! .....McM |
That would be the horn blower of the Canton of Uri, whose heraldry uses canting arms with the head of the aurochs. The Osprey image is based on a miniature in the Illustrated Chronicle by Diebold Schilling of 1513.
http://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/en/kol/S0023-2/200/0/Sequence-1494
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Lucerne S23, p.200
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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Mark Moore
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I consider myself educated. Thanks, Matt..............McM
''Life is like a box of chocolates...'' --- F. Gump
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Pedro Paulo Gaião
Location: Sioux City, IA Joined: 14 Mar 2015
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| Mark Moore wrote: | | I've never seen one exactly like that. It being in a video game, I presume there is a bit of fantasy there. |
Not at all. I was digging up some armor in the internet and actually find this gothic suit of plate harness (1484) belonging to Sigismund, archduke of Austria. It was made by a famous er at Augsburg:
Other images:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/Bwaze/G...10KBF3.jpg
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Mikko Kuusirati
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| Pedro Paulo Gaião wrote: | | Mark Moore wrote: | | I've never seen one exactly like that. It being in a video game, I presume there is a bit of fantasy there. |
Not at all. I was digging up some armor in the internet and actually find this gothic suit of plate harness (1484) belonging to Sigismund, archduke of Austria. It was made by a famous er at Augsburg: |
I think there may be a small fantastic touch in that all the historical sallets of this type I can think of have hinged visors, whereas the ones in the game appear to be solid.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die, dogs -- I was a man before I was a king.
-- R. E. Howard, The Road of Kings
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Mark Moore
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Okay....Let me rephrase that: " I've never seen a -solid- one like that."  Not to say there is/was no such thing....  ....McM
''Life is like a box of chocolates...'' --- F. Gump
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T. Kew
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Surely the Sigismund harness has a straight visor slot, which is appearing angled due to the direction from which the picture has been taken?
HEMA fencer and coach, New Cross Historical Fencing
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James Arlen Gillaspie
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Yes, the 'Sigismund' gothic's Schaller has a level occularium.
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Mikko Kuusirati
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| Mark Moore wrote: | | Okay....Let me rephrase that: " I've never seen a -solid- one like that." Not to say there is/was no such thing.... ....McM |
And indeed, I stand corrected - a brief search unearthed a number of historical solid visored sallets. This video from Matt Easton features several, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwX2kkeMEOk
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die, dogs -- I was a man before I was a king.
-- R. E. Howard, The Road of Kings
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