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Kristjan Runarsson
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 Posted: Wed 06 Jul, 2016 5:54 am Post subject: Chapel de Fer/Kettle hat with cheek pieces? |
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I'm in the market for a Chapel de Fer helmet. I've seen a bunch of Chapel de Fer helmets with cheek pieces vaguely similar to ones on Roman legionary helmets. These are apparently seen quite frequently in scandinavian art from the 13th to the 15th century where the Chapel de Fer was very popular. However, has anybody actually seen a surviving period piece with cheek pieces like this?
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I've seen mildly similar surviving Chapel de Fer helmets from Scandinavia that look similar to this one like for example the below example which was found at Hove in Vestfold, Norway in 1898:
http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/fid.asp?fid=119391&g=1
...and this example which is is often mentioned in conjunction with Visby but I think it may be the same piece as the one above? ...since as far as I know no helmets were found in the Visby graves.
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Mark Griffin
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Thanks for posting that. Deceptively simple at a brief glance, then you start examining how it was constructed, interesting stuff.
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Mart Shearer
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There are several surviving kettle hats from Scandinavia, but none with surviving cheek pieces, as far as I know. Those seem to be in the minority of depictions to begin with, and if the cheek plates are hinged with leather or riveted to the chin strap, they would be easily lost.
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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Bartek Strojek
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Håvard Kongsrud
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The two kettle hats found in Stand, Bejarn in northern Norway in the 1940ies show fastenings that has been interpreted to be for cheek guards. But no actual cheek guards remain.
The Hof [Not Hove) kettle hat in Stockholm is often mixed up with the Visby grave finds because it was depicted in Thordeman's account of the finds.
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This is a standard topic
